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Last Days News - February
4, 2011
“Jesus is not pleased with the manner in which His clergy are carrying out their vocations, and, also, the Mass. Jesus wishes that the Old Mass be returned to wipe out many of the errors that have crept in since the New Mass has started.” – Veronica, July 1, 1985
Oregon Live reported on January 29, 2011:
Catholics whose memories of Mass are mostly in English will be asked to relearn their lines when a new translation of the English Mass debuts later this year.
Parishioners who have worshipped, wed and buried loved ones to what have become familiar phrases may find the new language inspiring, jarring or confusing.
Beginning Nov. 27, Catholics reciting the Nicene Creed -- the statement of faith many memorized as children -- will no longer describe Jesus as "the only son of God, eternally begotten of the Father" but as "the only begotten son of God, born of the Father before all ages."
Instead of saying Jesus is "one in being with the Father," they'll say he is "consubstantial with the Father."
And those are just two of thousands of changes in the Roman Missal, the massive book of prayers used during Catholic services. Most are in the words recited by priests.
The nine-year translation project has been controversial. A Seattle priest, the Rev. Michael G. Ryan, pastor of St. James Cathedral, has led a national effort to postpone adoption of the changes. More than 21,000 people from more than 60 countries signed an online protest, "What If We Just Said Wait?"
Critics say the new Missal is an assault on the Second Vatican Council decision to allow Catholics to say Mass in their own languages. Mass translations have always been subject to Vatican approval, but some say this latest English version is awkward, obscure and -- occasionally -- laughable.
Supporters of the new Missal also are collecting signatures. Almost 5,000 people, including priests and seminarians, have signed an online petition, "We've Waited Long Enough."
They say the new translation comes closer to the Latin original and, while it may take some getting used to, it will inspire Catholics to consider anew what they are saying.
Despite objections from some Catholics, the U.S. bishops are moving forward with the adoption of the new translation on the first Sunday of Advent. Excerpts are available on their website.
Oregon Catholic Press, a liturgical publisher based in Portland, has been preparing new melodies to accompany parts of the Mass that traditionally are sung. A selection of these "Mass settings" may be heard online. Dioceses are holding workshops for priests and other worship leaders.
In the Archdiocese of Portland, the Rev. Jeremy Driscoll, a Benedictine monk of Mount Angel Abbey, has led some of the workshops. He is a member of Vox Clara, the Vatican committee that advised the Congregation for Divine Worship, which oversaw the new translation. Driscoll, who's heard many arguments about the new Missal, believes objections will fade as Catholics have the text in hand.
In an interview, Driscoll talked about his contribution to the new Missal and compared examples from the current and new translations. His answers have been edited for length and clarity.
What was your role on Vox Clara?
I was one of five theological advisers who walked the bishops through the proposed translation and advised them on whether to accept the changes or not.
What did that entail?
A painstaking examination of the original Latin and proposed English of every line of the Roman Missal. It meant confronting disagreements among us, not only about how particular lines should be translated, but also sometimes about the theory of translation itself.
Why did the Vatican decide a new translation was necessary?
The decision at Vatican II to move from Latin to the vernacular was a great decision, to make the riches of the Latin liturgy available in people's own tongue. The goal in the 1960s was to make the language of the Mass accessible to people, to make it easier to understand.
But 40 years down the road, there are quite a lot of differences between the original Latin and the translations. The current language is an under translation of the Latin. The new one restores the reverence, expressing the greatness and majesty of God. For example, in the beginning of many prayers, the current version regularly uses the word "Father" -- which some consider a bad or patriarchal word -- where the new version will follow the Latin much more closely and say, "Almighty and Eternal God."
Can you give another example of what you've called "getting the tone right"
There are eight Easter prefaces (introductions to the Eucharistic prayer), heard again and again throughout the 50 days of Easter. They all have the same ending in Latin and are rendered the same in the translation we now use: "The joy of the resurrection renews the whole world, while the choirs of heaven sing forever to your glory."
The new version is considerably more exuberant, reflecting the original Latin: "Therefore, overcome with paschal joy, every land, every people exults in your praise and even the heavenly powers, with the angelic hosts sing together the unending hymn of your glory as they acclaim. ..."
Many Catholics are upset at the prospect of reciting the Nicene Creed differently describing Jesus as "consubstantial with the Father." They aren't sure what that means.
That will be explained -- it needs to be explained. It's a word with a technical meaning that has a huge history behind it. Many Catholics don't know what "one in being" means, either. Materials are being prepared to help priests and parishes understand the new Missal. I can see priests spending two minutes of a homily explaining different portions.
Critics say the new translation sounds stilted or unnatural. How do you respond to that?
The language of any liturgical tradition differs somewhat from the language as it is used in other contexts. This shift in language will take some getting used to, but once we do, it will sound elegant and special, as suits the context of prayer.
What can Catholics do to make their own transitions easier?
Study the new liturgy. Read it. Listen to it. Different phrases will strike you from time to time. Ask questions. Learn about them. The liturgy is the church's deepest expression of what it believes. We are exposed to it over a lifetime, and it takes time for all its riches to sink in. It is not meant to always be completely grasped in a first hearing.
"O pastors in My Son's House, how many times must I warn you of the dangers of your innovations, the dangers of your experimenting in My Son's House? You will not convert, you will not return Our straying sheep with your improvisions. You must return discipline to My Son's House. This discipline must start with the rulers in My Son's House." - Our Lady, November 22, 1976
The awesome Bayside Prophecies...
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These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica
Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995:
YOU WILL STOP EXPERIMENTING
"My child and My children, I come once more with an urgent and pleading
message to the hierarchy in the Church, My Church upon earth. I want you to know
now that We look upon you and find many that do not fall into grace. They are
falling out of grace and misleading many of Our sheep.
"Therefore, I warn you now as your God: You will stop
your intricacies within My Church. You will stop experimenting. I gave you the
rules to follow many years ago, two thousand years approximately. And why now,
two thousand years later, do you deem it necessary to change My Church upon
earth? I, your God, say to you, you will be judged accordingly. You will return
My Church to its former glory, and in that manner you will have more vocations
and more entering the seminaries, and not fleeing from them as they hear the
heresies and all other innovations that are going on within My Church. This is
My last and final word to My clergy: Change now or suffer a just punishment and
banishment." - Jesus, June 18, 1986
RETURN TO YOUR TRADITIONAL RITES
”I send to My clergy, those whom I have given the grace to represent Heaven upon
earth, this warning: You must now return to your traditional rites! You must
restore My House from its crumbling exterior and rotting interior. You must
rebuild what you seek to destroy--now!
"Many who call themselves My chosen ones have set themselves to destroy
from within. Your actions have not gone by unnoticed by the Eternal Father.
Error, deception, deceit, in the guise of sanctity and piousness! You are
unmasked before the Eternal Father. You shall start little by little and repair
the foundation, or you shall be within and destroy.
"I look upon all manner of abominations being committed in My House. Do you
think you will go much longer without chastisement? Awaken from your slumber, My
clergy! You deceive no one!” - Jesus, November 22, 1975
CHANGING THE CONSTRUCTION
“You will not bring about a conversion of those who are presently apostate by
compromising your Faith or changing the construction of the exterior lines of My
Church; and by that I mean the physical appearance and the manner in which you
conduct the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
“Many are giving My Body in a manner that can only be called blasphemy.
Many are accepting My Body in the Eucharist in a manner that defames the
Divinity, and also promotes unholiness, paganism, and impurity of heart and
actions during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” - Jesus, May 26, 1979
CHANGES MUST BE STOPPED AND REVERSED
"There is no excuse accepted now by the Eternal Father among the clergy, who now
offend the Eternal Father by misleading the children of God upon earth. The
experimentation and changes must be stopped and reversed! There is no other
course.” – Our Lady, August 4, 1979
“RESTORE MY HOUSE!”
"My
Mother has given you My way. It is a simple road that must be followed. The
rules have been given to you that must not be changed, as you cater to the basic
carnal nature of man, a generation that has fallen! You will not make changes
within My House, for you have dispersed My sheep. You will restore My House to
its former glory. Strip you hearts of your pride! Recognize your errors and
restore My House!
"I say this to you for your Creator, as your God: Restore My House, or I
shall come down and restore it Myself with a firm hand! And shall you stand
before Me, O pastors, and say that your teachings have been pure in My sight? I
shall take you and spit you out as spittle into the fires of eternal damnation!
Vermin that came out of the flowers!” – Jesus, December 28, 1976
STOP
CHANGE AND NOVELTY
"My child and My children, make it known to all that the road to Heaven was
never easy, but you can make it much easier upon yourselves and your families if
you follow the rules, if you follow the Commandments from the Eternal Father.
The changes that We see taking place in My House and upon earth are not good,
for many, many souls are falling into hell. And a great measure of
responsibility now is with those who have been called to the holy orders, who
have given themselves to represent Me upon earth. Shall I say that I have found
many Judases now within My House? Cannot this situation be changed?
"There is only one way that this can be stopped, this evil that has seeped
into My House and into the hearts of all mankind. You must stop now your seeking
for change and novelty. You must restore My Church to its former glory. Admit
your error. Do not conceal this with pride and arrogance.
"Remember there was the time when it was necessary to cast Luciel and his
followers from Heaven--Lucifer, who now goads you on to hell with him, upon
earth. He had to be cast from Heaven because he, too, became prideful and
arrogant, seeking to make himself another living god. This cannot be done. You
cannot be above your Creator.” – Jesus, September 7, 1978
DO NOT
ACCEPT
"My children, you must retain Tradition; you must retain a firm foundation of
your faith by keeping all of the good publications. Do not accept the changes
that have been made by satan to seduce your souls.” – Jesus, November 19, 1977
INDOCTRINATED
Veronica - The books are being changed to cover the evil being perpetrated now.
The young are being indoctrinated to accept changes which will take away
Tradition and even doctrine. Our Lady said we must all pray a constant vigilance
of prayer. It has a great power over the demons. –
November 19, 1977
NOT
FROM HOLY SPIRIT
"I must, My child, make it known at this time that you must go back in the
immediate years and bring the knowledge to mankind that these changes, the
changes that have given bad fruits, have not been given to you through the Holy
Spirit and through your Vicar, Pope Paul VI. It is the web of satan reaching
out. Many are now, My child, puppets. The strings are being pulled by Benelli,
Villot, and Casaroli and their followers.” – Our Lady, September 27, 1975
YOU
HAVE STRAYED
"O My children, how far you have strayed from the truth! The knowledge given to
you by your prophets were written down in truth to guide you, but now you change
the words to suit your basic carnal human natures. Go back and read, My
children, the true words of your prophets. But do not accept changes in the
Book, for these changes have been promoted by satan. Heresy, O mournful heresy,
whatever shall become of you!
"Parents, I caution you anew to guard the souls of your children by your
teaching and example. You cannot save your children's souls by giving them to
false teachers and the world, for the world has now been given to satan.” – Our Lady,
June
5, 1976
“WE DO
NOT CONDONE VARIATIONS AND CHANGES"
"It
has grieved Me much in the past, as it grieves Me now, that mankind is making
changes to My words. I assure you, My children and pastors within My houses, My
Church upon earth, there is no necessity to change My words. Heaven, hell,
purgatory, and especially, My children, the word 'hell' must be retained in your
prayers.
"Repeat, My child, the confessional prayer.
O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I confess to
all my sins, because I dread the loss of Heaven and the pains of hell, but most
of all because I love Thee, my God, Who are all-good and deserving of all my
love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do
penance, and to amend my life. Amen.
"Yes, My child, We do not condone variations and changes. It is the enemies
of your God that have set themselves to promote change upon My words. The word
of your God is eternal and must not be changed.” –
Jesus, February 10, 1977
ONLY
SATAN SEEKS CHANGE
"We
ask--the Eternal Father speaks, and demands that all bishops in the houses of
God throughout your world must turn back to prayer. They must turn back from the
road they have chosen, a road filled with error, corruption, and sin. Man will
not make changes in the House of God to please the basic carnal nature of
mankind! But man in the House of God--the leaders, the clergy chosen by the
Eternal Father, shall turn man from his path of destruction and bring him into
the House of God. This he will not accomplish by lowering the rule or standards.
Man must change his ways and follow the ways of God.
"You are, My children, living in the era of Antichrist. Recognize the signs
of your times, and you will not fall into error. Read the Book, My children. You
read books of corruption and vile debauchery. Restore the truth in your heart,
into your children and homes. Open the good Book, the Bible, and read it in your
homes.
"My Son has already set up the rule for the houses throughout the world,
the churches. They are written in the Book of love and life, the Bible. Read and
learn, and follow the truth!
"There is no time or change in Heaven. The Father never changes. It is only
satan who seeks change to disturb, corrupt, and degrade. Satan roams wherever
there is darkness of spirit. He will debase mankind in a manner so foul that you
will know that no human could conceive of such vileness of sin.” – Our Lady,
March
22, 1975
Directives from Heaven…https://www.tldm.org/directives/directives.htm
D1 - The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass
D19 - Prayers
D20 - Importance of Prayer (Part 1)
D21 - Importance of Prayer (Part 2)
D79 - Restore My Church
D85 - Tradition
D127 - Vatican II
D280 - Ungodly Music
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https://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-2.htmVatican II, part 3: the satanic revolution gains momentum at the Council
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