| Home - Latest News | Introduction | Bayside Prophecies | Directives from Heaven | Order Form | Testimonies | Veronica Lueken | Miraculous Photos | Bible | Radio Program |

These Last Days News - January 20, 2012

Archdiocesan Canon Lawyers Differ on Asking RealCatholicTV.com to Drop ‘Catholic’ Name and RealCatholicTV Response...

"Red Hats, bishops, you go about earth oppressing the children of God, but you neither chastise nor condemn the evil ones in your House, the Church." Our Lady of the Roses, May 3, 1978

"The sin of omission shall condemn many to hell, be they layman or hierarchy. I repeat: not the sin of commission, but the sin of omission will commit many to hell. Among them there will also be mitres." - Our Lady, October 6, 1980

RealCatholicTV's Response

LifeSiteNews reported on January 9, 2012:

Canon lawyers at two American dioceses disagree over the question of jurisdiction in the case of Michael Voris and RealCatholicTV, who were recently asked by the Archdiocese of Detroit to stop using the name “Catholic” in their work.

The decision by the Detroit diocese to demand that RealCatholicTV stop calling itself “Catholic” came as a shock to fans of the website, which has become relatively well known in the pro-life and pro-family world due to Voris’ straight-talking defense of the right to life and sanctity of the family. However, some of his broadcasts bluntly holding Catholic Church leaders, including bishops, to account for failures in defending Catholic principles in these areas have also raised the ire of various clergy and diocesan staffers.

Following the announcement of its decision, the Detroit archdiocese received numerous complaints and questions from RealCatholicTV fans, prompting the diocese to issue another press release January 3rd.

Responding to the inquiries, Archdiocesan Director of Communications Ned McGrath noted that concerns about Voris had been public since 2008; however, the release did not say anything about the nature of those concerns. To date the diocese has not made any specific allegations against RealCatholicTV or its programming.

While the questions asked by most pertain to why the action was taken, the issue being discussed by canon lawyers is where jurisdiction over RealCatholicTV.com lies – with the Archdiocese of Detroit, where Michael Voris, the star of the show, lives and works, or in the Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend, where the owner and financier of RealCatholicTV.com, Marc Brammer, resides.

Fr. Mark Gurtner, Judicial Vicar of the Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend in Indiana spoke with LifeSiteNews, acknowledging that the diocese did know of Mr. Brammer’s enterprise of RealCatholicTV.com.  When asked if the diocese had any complaints about RealCatholicTV.com, Gurner replied, “No, as far as I know there’s nothing.”

Speaking as a canon lawyer and not an official of the diocese, Gurtner also said he believes the jurisdiction of the case resides with the Indiana diocese. “It certainly seems to me that canonically Michael Voris would not be the one that this would be imposed on,” he said. “Even though he is the one that regularly appears on (the show) he, in a sense, is really just an employee of (RealCatholicTV.com).”

“It seems like if the Archdiocese of Detroit is trying to go after (Voris), that’s the wrong person to address this with, that would have to be with the owner of the website or blog,” he added.

“I suppose if this Marc Brammer is paying for and running, constructing his blog from our diocese in his home I suppose you could make the argument that we have jurisdiction canonically.”

When asked by LifeSiteNews what concerns the Detroit Archdiocese had about Voris and RealCatholicTV.com, Detroit Archdiocesan Director of Communications McGrath would not specify any concern other than the use of the word ‘Catholic’.

Asked if the archdiocese has asked any other group or individual in the archdiocese not to use the name Catholic, McGrath said he couldn’t remember any other cases during his 20 years with the diocese.  “I don’t know. I’ve been here 20 years I can’t say that we’ve never done that in the history of the Archdiocese,” he said.

Pressed on the point, he said, “I wouldn’t want to say that definitively. But not any that I can recall recently, no.”

Fans of RealCatholicTV have noted that there are entities in the archdiocese, such as the Jesuit University of Detroit Mercy (UDM), which bills itself as “a Catholic university,” that regularly violate Catholic teaching but have been permitted to retain their “Catholic” designation without interference from the diocese.  UDM has proposed abortion agencies as career opportunities for students; had links to pro-abortion groups on its website; retained a renowned pro-abortion, pro-same-sex “marriage” nun on its Board of Trustees; held an annual event called ‘sexapalooza’ with activities such as ‘safe sex games’, sex-tac-toe; and has professors that put stickers on their office doors indicating their support for abortion.

Regarding the question of jurisdiction, McGrath directed LifeSiteNews to a blog post by canon lawyer Ed Peters, a professor at the AOD seminary, who has supported the archdiocese’s claims of having jurisdiction in the case.

In an initial blog post Peters, wrote, in his capacity as a canon lawyer and not as a representative of the diocese, about canon law 216, noting that the bishop has authority over the name Catholic. In a subsequent post, Peters took up the matter of jurisdiction, suggesting that Detroit is on “firm ground” in pursuing Voris. 

“I have yet to see the ‘lack of jurisdiction’ claim being made by anyone who knows how canon law actually determines jurisdiction over persons and projects,” Peters wrote. “As a blog is not the place for me to attempt a pre-emptive tutorial on canonical jurisdiction, I’ll just say that, to the extent that jurisdiction is or might be an issue in this matter, I believe the [Archdiocese of Detroit] to be on firm ground.”

Contact Information:

Archbishop Allen Vigneron
Chancery Building, Archdiocese of Detroit
1234 Washington Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48226
Email: infodesk@aod.org
Phone: (313) 237-5800
Fax: (313) 237-4644

"Red Hats, bishops, you go about earth oppressing the children of God, but you neither chastise nor condemn the evil ones in your House, the Church." Our Lady of the Roses, May 3, 1978

"Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost bath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." - Acts 20:28 DRB

"There will be many mitres in hell. Many priests are on the road to damnation; with them they take others. For this, the lowest pit of the abyss will be eternity! Those entrusted in My Son's House will be held accountable for the fall of young souls. Your rank will be no guarantee of your entrance into the Kingdom. You have betrayed My Son. How dare you sell His House! You have sold My Son's House for the profit of your temporary lifetime!" - Our Lady, July 25, 1972

"Your bishops and your cardinals need prayers. There must be hours of atonement and sacrifice for them. I have called to you to come onto the grounds of My Shrine site in Bayside, and I have directed you to maintain these prayer hours upon these grounds for your cardinals and bishops." - Our Lady, May 28, 1977

EDITOR'S COMMENT:  Evil is accelerating and the Anti-Christ forces are gaining power in the world.  When the persecution starts, all Christian web sites on the internet will be forced to close.  Be sure to have in your possession all the following items: the Bayside Prophecy books, Bayside Medals, Douay-Rheims Bibles, the Protection Packets, Candles, Sacramentals, and Religious Books.  Purchase these items now while they are still available!  You will urgently need them in the days ahead.  Also, you can print out all PDF files for the Directives from Heaven and all of the Bayside Prophecies.  Copy Our Lady's messages and the Directives from Heaven now while they are still available!  Pray to the Holy Spirit for wisdom and guidance on how to prepare now and for the days ahead when the Antichrist is revealed.  God bless.

 Let Us All Pray the Rosary Together Around the World for the Catholics who under Persecution from Within... Click here...

The awesome Bayside Prophecies...  https://www.tldm.org/Bayside/default.htm
These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995:

FALLEN  HIERARCHY  
"I shall come soon to cleanse My temples, the churches. I shall cast out you who have given yourselves and set upon My Church a stigma of fallen hierarchy. Awaken from your slumber! Recognize the faces of evil about you, My pastors! Shall you please man, or shall you follow the rule of your God? No man shall save yu from judgment. No man shall give you your reward. But satan has set on earth men who shall claim you for satan." Jesus, November 20, 1975

NEITHER  CHASTISE  NOR  CONDEMN  
"The need for a just Chastisement is pressed upon Heaven by many of the clergy in My Son's House, His Church. I say again unto you that the Red Hat has fallen and the Purple Hat is being misled.  
     "Your country and many countries throughout the world have given themselves over to immorality and unnatural vices of homosexuality and the perversion within childhood. Woe unto the man or woman who has taken part in the scandalizing of the young! Better that that being had died in his mother's womb than to scandalize one of the young! Parents, teachers, have you all become insane, selling the bodies of your children?!  
     "Red Hats, bishops, you go about earth oppressing the children of God, but you neither chastise nor condemn the evil ones in your House, the Church." Our Lady of the Roses, May 3, 1978

SCATTERING  THE  SHEEP  
"Do not scoff at the direction of My Mother. She has directed you and counseled you well. As you sow, so shall you all reap!  
     "The sheep shall be separated from the goats, even in My Church. Bishops and cardinals, you will soon be called before Me, and shall you stand before Me and say that your teaching has been pure in My sight? Better that you turn now, while there is time, and restore My Church. For you have scattered the sheep, for as shepherds you have become truly lost in the world, a world now controlled by the forces of hell. By sins of omission shall many of you be forever damned!"  Jesus, October 2, 1979

EVIL  MEN  OF  THE  CROSS  
"My children, what manner of abomination is being committed in My Son's House?  Can you not cry with Him, suffer with Him on His way to the cross?  No!  Demons have entered into My Son's House.  They claim the human body to use them to defile My Son's House until evil men of the cross are setting a church up, now, a church of man with no angels guiding them, with no supernatural intervention from Heaven guiding them.  This church of man shall be built on naturalism, modernism, and humanism.  
    "I say unto you, O Bishops, you have been looked upon and found wanting by the Eternal Father.  You have attuned yourself with satan.  You are goats!"  Our Lady, April 9, 1977

COME  OUT  OF  DARKNESS!  
"Come out of the darkness! The Red Hats have fallen and the Purple Hat is being misled. Cardinal against cardinal, bishop against bishop! All that is rotten shall fall. Blood shall flow in the streets--revolution upon revolution! Do you not know--have you learned nothing from the past history of mankind--that the Father will chastise those He loves? Awaken! You have fallen asleep, Our pastors! You shall not follow as sheep to the slaughter those pastors who have given themselves to satan, those pastors who have sold themselves to the world of satan. Many will sell their souls to get to the head." Our Lady, September 27, 1975

DECEIT  
"O My children, Rome is in great danger. There is much deceit throughout the hierarchy. It will be cardinal against cardinal and bishop against bishop, for satan has set himself in their ranks. Prayer is the most powerful force now given in your world to stop the advance of 666. My children, if I could open to you a scene in small measure of the coming Chastisement, I would not have to, as your Mother, beg you to listen and act upon My counsel; you would go to your knees and make your way to My Son in pleading." Our Lady, May 28, 1977

HIERARCHY  MUST  ACCEPT  MESSAGE  
"My children, I cannot impress you more with the urgency of going faster forward in the time that is left, forward to save your brothers and sisters. I ask you to approach My priesthood. Bishops and cardinals must now accept all of the Message from Heaven, even though it will bring about controversy among them. For it will be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal. For all that is rotten will fall and must not be retained."  Jesus, November 20, 1978

SHEPHERDS  OF  DARKNESS  
"What have you gained by your actions, shepherds of darkness? You who deceive and have brought confusion into the hearts of your sheep--shall you go before the Eternal Father and say that your teaching has been pure in His sight? No! I say unto you: you shall be cast aside and join those who have received a just recompense for their deception.  
     "The gates of hell are open wide. The pressures of hell force themselves upon the world. They have reached the walls of My churches, but woe to man who will sell out his Faith! I say unto you: Your time grows short. Turn back now from your deception!" Jesus, November 20, 1975

YOU  DECEIVE  NO  ONE  
"I send to My clergy, those whom I have given the grace to represent Heaven upon earth, this warning: You must now return to your traditional rites! You must restore My House from its crumbling exterior and rotting interior. You must rebuild what you seek to destroy--NOW!  
     "Many who call themselves My chosen ones have set themselves to destroy from within. Your actions have not gone by unnoticed by the Eternal Father. Error, deception, deceit, in the guise of sanctity and piousness! You are unmasked before the Eternal Father. You shall start little by little and repair the foundation, or you shall be within and destroy.  
     "I look upon all manner of abominations being committed in My House. Do you think you will go much longer without chastisement? Awaken from your slumber, My clergy! You deceive no one!"  Jesus, November 22, 1975

Directives from Heaven... https://www.tldm.org/directives/directives.htm

D2 - The Holy Eucharist  PDF
D36 - Bishops (Part 1)   PDF
D37 - Bishops (Part 2)   PDF
D169 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 1  PDF
D170 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 2   PDF
D171 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 3   PDF
D186 - Excommunication   PDF

Articles…

John Paul II: Communion to be reserved to those who know they have not committed mortal sin
https://www.tldm.org/News7/PopeHolyCommunion.htm

Sacrilegious Communion and the U.S. bishops
https://www.tldm.org/News6/sacrilege.htm

Catholics must be free of grave sin to receive Holy Communion
https://www.tldm.org/News6/ReceptionofCommunion.htm

The Catholic doctrine of Transubstantiation
https://www.tldm.org/news6/transubstantiation.htm

Bishop Sheridan will deny Communion to Catholics who vote pro-abortion
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Sheridan.htm

Bishop Wenski calls pro-abortion Catholics who demand to receive Communion "boorish and sacrilegious"
https://www.tldm.org/News6/Wenski.htm

Archbishop Chaput sees pro-abortion Communion scandal as needed "moment of truth"
https://www.tldm.org/News6/Chaput2.htm

Cardinal George says no Communion for gay protesters
https://www.tldm.org/news6/CardinalGeorge.htm

Vatican warns Catholic pro-abortion politicians not to receive Holy Communion
https://www.tldm.org/news6/vaticanwarnsjohnkerrynocommunion.htm

Congressman Hyde is on the U.S. bishops' case
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Hyde.htm

Cardinal Ratzinger says public figures who dissent from Church teachings should not receive Holy Communion
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Ratzinger.htm

Archbishop Burke: more profoundly sorrowful would be a bishop who failed "to safeguard the worthy reception of  Communion"
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Burke2.htm

Archbishop Pell: people who reject Church teaching not entitled to Holy Communion
https://www.tldm.org/News4/Pell.htm

Cardinal Ratzinger's letter to the U.S. bishops, on refusing Communion to pro-abortion politicians and those in obstinate sin
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Ratzinger.htm

Gay activists denied Communion in Chicago
https://www.tldm.org/news6/homosexuality17.htm

Monsignor will deny Holy Communion to New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Kenny.htm

Controversy heats up over Cardinal McCarrick downplaying Vatican direction on refusing Communion to abortionists and other dissenters
https://www.tldm.org/news7/McCarrick.htm

Bishop Galeone: Can a Catholic politician be pro-choice?
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Galeone.htm

The consecrated hands of a priest
https://www.tldm.org/News7/ConsecratedHands.htm

Cardinal Ratzinger says that refusing Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians is a "doctrine of the Church"
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Ratzinger3.htm

Pro-abortion Catholic politicians ignore U.S. bishops' warnings
https://www.tldm.org/News7/ignore.htm

At least 75 pro-abortion Catholic politicians still receiving Communion
https://www.tldm.org/News7/ignore.htm

Three Southern bishops ban Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians
https://www.tldm.org/News7/SouthernBishopsBan.htm

Archbishop Burke says that Vatican letter on pro-abort politicians withheld from U.S. bishops
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Burke.htm

Bishop Gracida twelve-step program for dealing with pro-abortion "Catholics"
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Gracida.htm

Bishop Gracida: denying Holy Communion to a pro-abort politician, a case history
https://www.tldm.org/News7/Gracida3.htm

Vatican Cardinal ends debate: No Communion for pro-abortion politicians or Rainbow Sashers
https://www.tldm.org/News7/AbortionArinze.htm

Bishop Henry says he would refuse Prime Minister Holy Communion, would consider excommunication
https://www.tldm.org/News7/AbortionBishopHenry.htm

Catholic priest to withhold Communion from pro gay "marriage" politician
https://www.tldm.org/News7/homosexualityFatherLemire.htm

Outside Links…

Abortion:

The beginning of the end of abortion, WorldNetDaily, November 13, 2004
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41431

Sin to vote for pro-abortion politicians? Fr. Matthew Habiger
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/SINTOVOT.HTM

2002 Canonical Petition to Excommunicate Culture of Death "Catholics"
http://www.cathfam.org/cfexcom/Excom.html

“Whoever is not with Me, is against Me,” Archbishop William Levada
http://www.ewtn.com/library/BISHOPS/LEVADA.HTM

Declaration on procured abortion (CDF, November 18, 1974)
http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFABORT.HTM

The Gospel of Life, Pope John Paul II, March 25, 1995
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/JP2EVANG.HTM

Contraception:

Faithfulness to the Divine Plan in the Transmission of Life Pope John Paul II's General Audience (8 August 1984)

Humanae Vitae Pope Paul VI - Encyclical - On the Regulation of Births (25 July 1968)

Contraception Versus Abortion: A Comparison and Some Implications, By Msgr. Vincent Foy, PhD.

Contraception and Catholic Teaching, Donald DeMarco, Ph.D.

God and the Pill, Terence J. Hughes

Abortifacients, Charles M. Mangan

Contraception: Fatal to the Faith and to Eternal Life,  John A. Hardon, S.J.

Is Contraception Gravely Sinful Matter? by Fr Lino Ciccone CM (from L'Osservatore Romano, 4 December 1996)