The
REAL Third Secret was not revealed on
June 26, 2000...
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady, May 13, 1978
Two years ago, on June 26, 2000, the Vatican released a document and commentary that Vatican officials alleged was the long awaited Third Secret of Fatima. The following inconsistencies were found in this document:
The commentary problem
Concerning the Vatican commentary on this forgery, there were the following problems:
The handwriting problem
If the above inconsistencies and discrepancies were not enough, the actual style of writing in the June 26, 2000 document (that would have originally been written on January 3, 1944 if it were the REAL Third Secret) is inconsistent with Sister Lucy’s known writings, before and after this date (See more differences in writing style).
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Robert Kullman (of Speckin Forensic Laboratories, an international forensic firm specializing in forgeries and handwriting, famous for the JonBenet Ramsey case) investigated the June 26, 2000 document, comparing it with authentic writings of Sister Lucy. Mr. Kullman stated:
"it is my opinion, based on the documents examined, that the Questioned Document 'Third Secret' cannot be identified with the purported known writings of Sister Lucy." (Speckin Report, p. 2)
Furthermore, the quality of writing in the June 26, 2000 document is greater than any demonstrated by Sister Lucy before or after. This is very odd, particularly due to the fact that Sister Lucy had suffered a life-threatening illness prior to writing the Third Secret. In fact, Sister Lucy was so gravely sick on September 15, 1943 that when Bishop da Silva came to visit her, she didn’t have strength to leave her bed. The Bishop sent a letter in mid-October commanding Sister Lucy, under obedience, to write down the Third Secret of Fatima. It was not until January 3, 1944 that Sister Lucy was able to comply with this command.
Keeping Sister Lucy’s poor health at this time in mind, we asked Robert Kullman on August 15, 2000 several questions concerning the noticeable change in handwriting style. Mr. Kullman replied:
"Correct me if I'm wrong: what you are saying, 'does someone's writing go along at a certain time frame, say for a ten-year period and they write a certain style. And then say, for a two year time period they change and write a different style and then they pick up two years after that and start writing to the previous style?' NO THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, LOGICALLY. See, writing may progress somewhat. It doesn't regress to what you wrote years ago."
We then asked him what he would check into if he saw an example of this phenomena occurring in a series of handwriting samples (a consistent handwriting style changing radically for a short period and then resuming to the original handwriting style), what questions he would ask. He replied:
"Well, first off I would check into seeing if the radical change was true known writing. That's the first thing." He then went on to say, "There's one of two things: either it's not that person's known writing or something happened to that person. Either they broke their writing arm and they had to write with a different arm, or they went through some medical problem that caused them not to write their normal writing at that particular time, because writing is affected by physical and mental items. So something could happen to you to make your writing change."
We then mentioned to him that such a handwriting change would generally be for the worse in this scenario. Robert Kullman replied:
"Oh, definitely. Oh yeah, it doesn't get better. You can never—you can't write better than you can write."
Another handwriting expert observed:
The hand that penned the
presumed forgery appears to have left traces of the effort in the writing. Great
care was taken in that article in that the 'weight' of the stroke is almost
flat, relative to the plane of the paper, throughout the whole document. Humans
don't as a rule write that way. As an expert on legibility (among other things),
I can state with some confidence that except for persons trained in the ritual
art of copying or calligraphy, humans leave impressions in the act of writing
which betrays things like how the body was held at the time of writing. Such
things as whether there is something to act as a wrist brace and how far away
from the writing surface, all leave impressions in the act of writing.
The offered document has
none of these apparent. In fact the absence of normal human writing 'quavers'
(as they are known in the trade) suggests with some certainty that this person
was trained to penmanship as an adult.
Such people are rare these days, except in the catholic and orthodox (russian/greek)
churches. I discount calligraphers even amateurs as their styles are not so
clearly Roman.
The importance of Our Lady of the Roses message
There are only a few people who have actually read the REAL Third Secret of Fatima. Obviously, the testimonies of these witnesses are very important indeed. One such person who has actually read the REAL Third Secret was Fr. Malachi Martin. Mario Aguero, a friend of the late Fr. Malachi Martin, had lunch with Father in a Manhattan restaurant in the summer of 1998, less than a year before he died, when the topic of Marian apparitions came up. Mario asked Fr. Malachi Martin his opinion on the Bayside apparitions. Although he expressed to Mario his disbelief with other major and more popular alleged apparitions, this Vatican insider and advisor to three Popes stated, “I believe that Bayside is a true apparition. For many years I did not believe that Bayside was legitimate but certain circumstances now have led me to believe that in fact it is a true apparition.” Since Fr. Malachi Martin has read the REAL Third Secret and also knows what the Our Lady of the Roses apparitions say concerning the Third Secret, he would naturally reject the apparitions immediately if they contradicted what he himself had read in the REAL Third Secret document. But he did not; rather, he believed in Our Lady of the Roses message.
Fr. Robert Skurla (at one time the International Chaplain of the Blue Army) delivered a sermon on Palm Sunday, April 4, 1982 in St. Peter's Cathedral, Scranton, Pennsylvania. He stated:
“The messages of Bayside restored my confidence in the Catholic Church once more. I will stake my reputation, if that means anything, on the doctrine contained in the messages. The doctrine is the same as I was trained in over the years.” (Read more…)
Msgr. Otto Garcia, Chancellor for the Diocese of Brooklyn, has stated: "If the amount of cures that are claimed were true, Lourdes and Fatima are nothing, compared to Bayside." In spite of this statement, the Diocese of Brooklyn has refused repeated offers to personally inspect Our Lady of the Roses Shrine archives, and the thousands of testimonials that have been recorded over the years.
A priest from India, Fr. Bernard Nunes, O.C.D. writes:
“The salutary impact the Bayside Messages are having on those who have been perusing them with an open mind and sincere heart; the beneficial effects the night vigils of prayer are producing in the hearts of those who participate in them with devotion and in a spirit of penance; the cures of soul and of body effected at the apparition site or through the sacramentals blessed there by Heaven; the miraculous pictures shot by cameras that were blessed by Our Lady to purify and guard them against satan—all these, and each of them, are Heaven's signs and evidence of miracles, witnessing to the truth of the Bayside apparitions and messages. This witness is superior to that of men and their objections and claims, for the divine intervention can with difficulty be doubted or misinterpreted without violating the rules of human testimony. A true miracle, in the Christian sense, is not a barren marvel or a meaningless magical display. It is a sign or an exception that is ordained by God in the order of nature to turn men's eyes toward their salvation: It is a marvel or a mystery which defies all human explanations, and for which science has no answer. The investigators must make a sincere attempt to dispel the mystery; yet they will have to bow and salute it, if the facts compel them.”
In 1979, Cardinal Medeiros of Boston and Fr. Oliveira received a book and audio tapes for review containing Our Lady of the Roses message. In an April 24, 1990 taped interview with the woman who passed Our Lady’s message on to the Cardinal and Fr. Oliveira, she repeated what she had been told: “Fr. Oliveira, said to me, ‘I did not know exactly how to advise you on this matter. I told you before the Church acts very prudent, and rightfully so on these types of events. And after reading the book and listening to the messages on tape, I could not find any heresy in them.’ Then to my surprise he said, ‘I gave the Blue Book and these tapes of the messages to Cardinal Medeiros to read and listen.’… Fr. Oliveira told me, he told the Cardinal, that he could not find any heresy, and he replied, nor could he. And that on all matters of the Catholic Faith discussed in the book, and also given on the taped messages, they were free from error.”
In 1982, Cardinal Bevilacqua stated, "If that [Bayside] is authentic, we're in two different churches." ("Our Sunday Visitor," August 8, 1982)
In 1991, Fr. John Hardon said that Our Lady of the Roses apparitions passed every test for a true apparition, as outlined in The Graces of Interior Prayer (by Augustin Francois Poulain, S.J.).
Our Lady of the Roses apparitions are by far the most extensive (in the amount of messages and reported miracles) apparitions of Our Lady in the history of the Catholic Church. Church leaders (and laity) have a moral obligation to investigate her message, and expose the coverup that has suppressed this message for 32 years. Had this message been investigated according to Church law, the moral and doctrinal devastation wrought in the Church in the United States could have been averted.
But Our Lady of the Roses has a plan to overcome the faithless Church leaders in the United States who are suppressing Her message. Our Lady has promised to make a miraculous spring erupt on the Shrine grounds, to physically appear to the Bishop of Brooklyn over the old St. Robert Bellarmine church in Bayside, New York, and that Sister Lucy will confirm that Jacinta has appeared at Our Lady of the Roses Shrine:
Veronica - Jacinta will be beatified. And Our Lady said that Lucy will bear
witness to her words, here at this Shrine! At this Shrine! She said that; that's
what Our Lady said. Our Lady said Jacinta will be beatified. And Lucy will bear
witness to her words, here at this Shrine. I don't know exactly...
And Our Lady said . . . She smiled and She said:
Our Lady - "That is all I will tell you, My child, at this time." (December
30, 1972)
"I say this
evening, as your God, that on that date [1972], as promised at
Fatima,
satan entered My Church upon earth. He brought with him his agents--and satan
himself, the deceiver of all mankind--sat in on
Vatican II and
maneuvered all the outsiders to come in and distort My doctrines and distort the
truth.
"At Fatima, My Mother tried to warn of this coming event, but who cared to
listen? Who was interested in listening? Not those who were years--earth-years
away. All Heaven was crying in that time, for the Eternal Father had made it
known how His message would be received. To this day, to your earth-year of
1986, you have not been given, My children, the full secrets as given to the
children at Fatima.
"Therefore, I must make it known at this time to you. If you are perceiving
and interested in My Church upon earth, I do not have to explain Myself too
fully; for you will already know of the chaos that satan has wrought when he
entered My Church. And why did he enter, you say? This I want it made known, My
child--and you will not be affrighted as you are now--you will speak out for Me
and My Mother, and the Eternal Father in the Holy Spirit; you will speak out and
say that satan is in the Church, My Church upon earth. He knows his time is
growing short.
"And if you think you have seen carnage now already in the Church, the
worst is yet to come, unless you follow the rules, given by My Mother many
years ago, of prayer, atonement, and sacrifice. By your example you may be able
to save others. For soon there will come upon you the great Chastisement. It
comes in two parts, My child and My children: the Third World War and, also, the
Ball of Redemption.” –
Jesus,
June 18, 1986
Directives from Heaven...
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63 -
Third Secret
D129
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THIRD SECRET EXPLAINED: PART 1 -
666 in Rome
D130
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THIRD SECRET EXPLAINED: PART 2
- Satan entered the Church in 1972
D131
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THIRD SECRET EXPLAINED: PART 3
- Satan entered the highest realms of the hierarchy
D132
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THIRD SECRET EXPLAINED: PART 4 - There shall be bishop against bishop and
cardinal against cardinal, as satan has set himself in their midst.
D133
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THIRD SECRET EXPLAINED: PART 5 - The Apocalypse / Revelations
D155
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Antipope of History
D161 -
The Great Apostasy
D174 -
Homosexuality, Part 2
D175
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Defilement of the Young
D176
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Sodom and Gomorrah
D177
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Seminaries
Articles…
Speckin Forensic Labs report, page 1 (click here for high resolution)
Speckin Forensic Labs report, page 2 (click here for high resolution)
Speckin Forensic Labs report, page 3 (click here for high resolution)
Fatimagate
http://www.tldm.org/FatimaGate.htm
Two big blunders of
the Fatima experts
http://www.tldm.org/News5/blunders.htm
Jacinta saw Pope Paul
VI in her vision
http://www.tldm.org/news/vision_of_jacinta.htm
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