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These Last Days News - November 11, 2014

Altar Girls, Altar Boys and the Priesthood: Connecting the Dots...

"In the Holy Sacrifice that I left with you, I did not ask for women to be upon the altar, nor try to be a high priestess.  They carry this on in the churches of satan; therefore, it shall not be carried on in My Church.
    "When I had the Last Supper with the Apostles, My Mother was not present.  If I had it in My power from the Eternal Father to make a priestess, I would surely have chosen My Mother; but, no, there were no women present at the first Dedication."
  Jesus, October 2, 1987 

1 Peter 5 reported on September 17, 2014:

It has been twenty years since the Catholic Church officially permitted the use of altar girls at Mass. While extending this permission for girls to serve, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (CDWDS) was also careful to state that:

“The Holy See wishes to recall that it will always be very appropriate to follow the noble tradition of having boys serve at the altar. As is well known, this has led to a reassuring development of priestly vocations. Thus the obligation to support such groups of altar boys will always continue.”

Two decades later, there is still a great deal of emotion encountered when discussing the topic of altar servers. I have written about this in the past, only to be surprised at the level of confusion and misunderstanding regarding the subject. Many who enthusiastically endorse altar girls simply ignore the fact that Rome has always recognized the connection between boys serving at the altar and priestly vocations.

In a 2001 letter from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments the topic was further clarified:

“With respect to whether the practice of women serving at the altar would truly be of pastoral advantage in the local pastoral situation, it is perhaps helpful to recall that the non-ordained faithful do not have a right to service at the altar, rather they are capable of being admitted to such service by the Sacred Pastors…

“Therefore, in the event that Your Excellency found it opportune to authorize service of women at the altar, it would remain important to explain clearly to the faithful the nature of this innovation, lest confusion might be introduced, thereby hampering the development of priestly vocations.”

In reviewing both the initial statement released in 1994, as well as the 2001 follow up, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf provided a succinct summary of the parameters governing the practice of allowing girls to serve at the altar:

This isn’t mere speculation. We have the data. As I have previously written:

“…the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops released the findings from the 2014 Survey of Ordinands to the Priesthood. Prepared by Georgetown’s Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) for the USCCB, the survey was completed by 365 ordinands, an impressive 77 percent response rate…

“Of the 365 men surveyed this year, a whopping 80 percent had been altar boys during their formative years. In comparison, only 52 percent of ordinands had been lectors, less than a third had been youth ministers and only 15 percent had ever attended a World Youth Day or a Steubenville Youth Conference.”

This is consistent with prior surveys conducted by CARA. The percentage of ordinands who had been altar boys for some portion of their formative years were 70%, 71%, 75%, and 67% respectively for the years 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.

Based on the repeated statements and clarifications released by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments over the years, and the statistical findings reported to the USCCB itself by CARA, one can’t help but ask, “What is there to left to debate?”

The end of the video clip above gives us the answer. Bishop Coyne states that to discontinue the practice of female servers now would be telling girls that they are “second class citizens” instead of “welcoming them to the table.”

This of course is also the sort of language employed by those who try to impose a secular and misguided understanding of equality and participation into the liturgy. In our contemporary culture many fail to understand that serving in different ways does not reflect being any more or less important. To acknowledge that males and females are different — and have different roles — is healthy. People have been conditioned to think that if anything is “off limits,” someone is being denied their “rights”. The Church recognizes the dignity of the individual precisely because it extols the beauty of the differences between the sexes.

Finally, the claim that excluding girls from altar service negatively impacts the Church — or their role in it — doesn’t add up. An increasing number of parishes have already eliminated the use of female servers. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass, following the rubrics of the liturgical books in effect in 1962, does not permit for altar girls. More and more traditionally-minded parishes have sought consistency in the two forms by not permitting girls to serve at the Ordinary Form either. In most cases, parishes that embrace liturgical orthodoxy are experiencing increased attendance and participation. Their pews are packed with large families. If the sons of those families are serving at the altar, it’s not with envious looks from their mothers or sisters. If anything, there’s a sense of appropriate pride, and perhaps even the hope that one day, the family may see one of its own members join the priesthood.

In the end, this issue requires careful consideration and honest dialogue. To tackle this topic means we must look at the guidelines the Church has already issued, the origin and effects of the practice, and the data we have showing a connection between altar service and priesthood – which is, and will always be reserved for men. It is interesting that those who so vigorously defend a twenty-year-old practice — a recent innovation for a two-thousand-year-old institution — appear disinterested in actually studying its impact upon discernment and vocations. Instead, we are presented with arguments about “rights” and “feelings.” There is also anecdotal information that points to a loss of male altar servers when females are allowed. If the effect that the practice is having is detrimental to vocational discernment and ultimately the future of the priesthood, it can and should be reconsidered.

We can’t afford to ignore the signs. The next generation of Catholics — who will be deeply affected by the continuing decline of vocations to the priesthood — deserve better than that.

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[Veronica reads the following:]
     "The conduct of women during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass shall be one of silence.  No woman shall speak out during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.  Women must wear head coverings when they enter the House of God.  The House of God is a place of prayer, and not a meeting place or dance hall.  No woman shall speak from the pulpit.  No woman shall enter the ministry."
December 7, 1976

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Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak but to be subject, as also the law saith.  But if they would learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church.  1 Cor 14:34-35

But every woman praying or prophesying (teaching) with her head not covered disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.  For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn.  But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head.  The man indeed ought not to cover his head: because he is the image and glory of God.  But the woman is the glory of the man.  For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.  For the man was not created for the woman: but the woman for the man.  Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.  1 Cor 11:5-10

In like manner, women also in decent apparel: adorning themselves with modesty and sobriety, not with plaited hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly attire:  But, as it becometh women professing godliness, with good works.  Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed; then Eve.  And Adam was not seduced; but the woman, being seduced, was in the transgression.  Yet she shall be saved through child bearing; if she continue in faith and love and sanctification with sobriety.  1 Tim 2:9-15

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HIGH PRIESTESS
"I ask this of you as your God: in the Holy Sacrifice that I left with you, I did not ask for women to be upon the altar, nor try to be a high priestess. They carry this on in the churches of Satan; therefore, it shall not be carried on in My Church. When I had the Last Supper with the Apostles, My Mother was not present. If I had it in My power from the Eternal Father to make a priestess, I would surely have chosen My Mother; but, no, there were no women present at the first Dedication." - Jesus, October 2, 1987

 HERESY* 
"Already We hear you clamor for the ordination of woman. No woman shall stand in My House to represent Me! How dare you bring in this heresy to My House! I shall go among you and I shall sling you out from My temples!" 
Jesus, December 27, 1975

"Pope Gelasius in his ninth letter (chap. 26) to the bishops of Lucania condemned the evil practice which had been introduced of women serving the priest at the celebration of Mass.  Since this abuse had spread to the Greeks, Innocent IV strictly forbade it in his letter to the bishop of Tusculum: 'Women should not dare to serve at the altar; they should be altogether refused this ministry.'  We too have forbidden this practice in the same words...." (Pope Benedict XIV, Encyclical Allatae Sunt, July 26, 1755)

TRADITION  A  SAFEGUARD
"My child and My children, I need not repeat to you the necessity to retain tradition. It was like a valve, a safeguard from the eruption of My Son's Church, a schism, a division within My Son's House upon earth. I cry unto you, your Mother, as I hasten back and forth bringing you the Message, the counsel from Heaven. You must recognize--bishops, cardinals and pastors--you must recognize what is happening now in My Son's House. There is being rebuilt before your very eyes another religion, another church of man. No angels are helping in this building." Our Lady, September 7, 1978  

DECEPTION  FROM  SATAN
"My child, make it known to the world that woman must keep her place in respect to her husband. It was not Adam, the man, who fell, but he followed the fall of Eve, his wife. For man came from God and Eve was brought forth from man. Therefore, My child, this word I hear 'liberation' is a deception from satan!
     "Do you not recognize, My children, the signs of your times? Read and learn: 'Women will become unlike women. They shall go forth, and seven women will take hold of one man and say to him: Make me as you are. I wish to eat your bread.' [see Isaias 4:1]  
     "Know, My child, this simple lesson, that in these days of the latter times, women shall seek to cast off their role as mother and a woman. Woman will cast it off under the direction of satan, and murder her children. Woe to the woman who does not repent of this vile abomination! She has walked the road to eternal damnation and hell. Repent, O woman, or forever be lost!" 
- Our Lady, March 18, 1975 

BIBLE  PROPHECY
"The mystery in woman is her greatest asset. Satan seeks to take away woman's identity. The holy Bible has in prophecy: the time will come in the end that woman will seek to be as man. They will wear his clothes and want to eat his bread. [see Isaias 4:1]" - Our Lady, May 10, 1972

GOOD OR EVIL
"My child, you will make it known to mankind that the head of an earthly family is the father. The Father Eternal will guide the father, the head of the household. A woman of earth shall not cast aside her role as mother and housekeeper. In her role as mother, she shall be the guardian of her children's souls and a helpmate of her husband, and a guardian also of his earthly soul and the soul eternal. By her example in her household, she has the power, as woman, for good or evil. She shall stay in her home and guide her children." - St. Joseph, July 15, 1975
 

READ  ST.  PAUL
"All who have received the Holy Spirit have consecrated hands. And I say unto you none but legally-ordained priests in My House shall bring My Body to the multitudes! No woman shall stand in the holy place! No woman shall vie or compete for rulership in My House. I say unto you, you must go back and read the Commandments of the Eternal Father; you must go back and read the rules that Paul gave to you. You cast him aside and you write another book, a bible, a tome; you write it to suit your own basic carnal human nature." Jesus, July 15, 1977 

SEWING, MUSIC
"Big girls, there is so much the mothers could teach them. They do not sew anymore. They do not play the instruments of music. Better they play this way than to go out and find the creations of Satan. They do not stay in their homes, because their homes are not homes. They are castles of sin!" - St. Theresa, October 2, 1974

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