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In America, Talk Turns to Something Unspoken for 150 Years: Civil War...

YOU WOULD GROVEL ON YOUR KNEES
"If only I could show you, the prideful and boastful United States and Canada—if I could show you what the enemy has in store for you now, you would grovel on your knees to make restitution to the Eternal Father. But now this must be taught to you in a most sorrowful way." - Our Lady, September 27, 1986

"Yes, My child, there will be blood flowing in the streets of the United States. There will be carnage such as has never been seen before in the United States and Canada. Do not take lightly the threats of those murderers in the European states that have felt this carnage. They are now setting up their plans to bring destruction to the heart of the Americas." - Our Lady of the Roses, September 27, 1986

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LMTonline.com reported on March 1, 2019:

by Greg Jaffe and Jenna Johnson

At a moment when the country has never seemed angrier, two political commentators from opposite sides of the divide concurred last week on one point, nearly unthinkable until recently: The country is on the verge of "civil war."

First came former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Fox News regular and ally of President Trump. "We are in a civil war," he said. "The suggestion that there's ever going to be civil discourse in this country for the foreseeable future is over. . . . It's going to be total war."

The next day, Nicolle Wallace, a former Republican operative turned MSNBC commentator and Trump critic, played a clip of diGenova's commentary on her show and agreed with him - although she placed the blame squarely on the president.

Trump, she said, "greenlit a war in this country around race. And if you think about the most dangerous thing he's done, that might be it."

With the report by special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly nearly complete, impeachment talk in the air and the 2020 presidential election ramping up, fears that once existed only in fiction or the fevered dreams of conspiracy theorists have become a regular part of the political debate. These days, there's talk of violence, mayhem and, increasingly, civil war.

A tumultuous couple of weeks in American politics seem to have raised the rhetorical flourishes to a new level and also brought a troubling question to the surface: At what point does all the alarmist talk of civil war actually increase the prospect of violence, riots or domestic terrorism?

Speaking to conservative pundit Laura Ingraham, diGenova summed up his best advice to friends: "I vote, and I buy guns. And that's what you should do."

He was a bit more measured a few days later in an interview with The Washington Post, saying that the United States is in a "civil war of discourse . . . a civil war of conduct," triggered mostly by liberals and the media's coverage of the Trump presidency. The former U.S. attorney said he owns guns mostly to make a statement, and not because he fears political insurrection at the hands of his fellow Americans.

The rampant talk of civil war may be hyperbolic, but it does have origins in a real crumbling confidence in the country's democratic institutions and its paralyzed federal government. With Congress largely deadlocked, governance on the most controversial issues has been left to the Supreme Court or has come through executive or emergency actions, such as Trump's border wall effort.

Then there's the persistent worry about the 202o elections. "Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020 that there will never be a peaceful transition of power," Michael Cohen, Trump's former fixer and personal lawyer, told a congressional committee Wednesday.

On that score, Cohen's not the only one who is concerned. As far back as 2016, Trump declined to say whether he would concede if he lost to Hillary Clinton, prompting former president Barack Obama to warn that Trump was undermining American democracy. "That is dangerous," Obama said.

The moment was top of mind for Joshua Geltzer, a former senior Obama administration Justice Department official, when he wrote a recent editorial for CNN urging the country to prepare for the possibility that Trump might not "leave the Oval Office peacefully" if he loses in 2020.

"If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020 . . . he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the U.S. government potentially at his disposal," Geltzer, now a professor at Georgetown Law School, wrote in his piece in late February.

Geltzer urged both major parties to require their electoral college voters to pledge to respect the outcome of the election, and suggested that it might be necessary to ask the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to reaffirm their loyalty to the Constitution over Trump.

"These are dire thoughts," Geltzer wrote, "but we live in uncertain and worrying times."

His speculation drew immediate reaction from the right. Former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin tweeted a link to an article that called Geltzer's warnings "rampant crazy." News Punch, a far-right site that traffics in conspiracy theories, blared: "Obama Official Urges Civil War Against Trump Administration."

Said Geltzer: "I don't think I was being paranoid, but, boy, did I inspire paranoia on the other side."

The concerns about a civil war, though, extend beyond the pundit class to a sizable segment of the population. An October 2017 poll from the company that makes the game Cards Against Humanity found that 31 percent of Americans believed a civil war was "likely" in the next decade.

More than 40 percent of Democrats described such a conflict as "likely," compared with about 25 percent of Republicans. The company partnered with Survey Sampling International to conduct the nationally representative poll.

Some historians have sounded a similar alarm. "How, when, and why has the United States now arrived at the brink of a veritable civil war?" Victor Davis Hanson, a historian with Stanford University's Hoover Institution, asked last summer in an essay in National Review. Hanson prophesied that the United States "was nearing a point comparable to 1860," about a year before the first shots were fired on Fort Sumter, South Carolina.

Around the same time Hanson was writing, Robert Reich, a former secretary of labor who is now a professor at the University of California at Berkeley, imagined his own new American civil war, in which demands for Trump's impeachment lead to calls from Fox News commentators for "every honest patriot to take to the streets."

"The way Mr. Trump and his defenders are behaving, it's not absurd to imagine serious social unrest," Reich wrote in the Baltimore Sun. "That's how low he's taken us."

Reich got some unlikely support last week from Stephen K. Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist. "I think that 2019 is going to be the most vitriolic year in American politics since the Civil War, and I include Vietnam in that," Bannon said in an interview with CBS's "Face the Nation."

All the doom, gloom and divisiveness have caught the attention of experts who evaluate the strength of governments around the world. The Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index, a measure widely cited by political scientists, demoted the United States from "full democracy" to "flawed democracy" in January 2017, citing a big drop in Americans' trust for their political institutions.

Similarly, Freedom House, which monitors freedom and democracy around the world, warned in 2018 that the past year has "brought further, faster erosion of American's own democratic standards than at any other time in memory."

Those warnings about the state of America's democratic institutions concern political scientists who study civil wars, which usually take root in countries with high levels of corruption, low trust in institutions and poor governance.

Barbara Walter, a professor of political science at the University of California at San Diego, said her first instinct was to dismiss any talk of civil war in the United States. "But the U.S. is starting to show that it is moving in that direction," she said. "Countries with bad governance are the ones that experience these wars."

James Fearon, who researches political violence at Stanford University, called the pundits' warnings "basically absurd." But he noted that political polarization and the possibility of a potentially serious constitutional crisis in the near future does "marginally increase the still very low odds" of a stalemate that might require "some kind of action by the military leadership."

"I can't believe I'm saying this," he added, "but I guess it's not entirely out of the question."

Less clear in the near term is what kind of effect the inflammatory civil war rhetoric has on a democracy that's already on edge. There's some evidence that such heated words could cause people to become more moderate. A 2014 study found that when hard-line Israeli Jews were shown extreme videos promoting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as essential to Israeli pride, a strong army or national unity, they took a more dovish position.

"Extreme rhetoric can lead some people to pull back from the brink," said Boaz Hameiri, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and co-author on the study. But that only happens when people already believe a "more moderate version of the extreme views" and find the more extreme message shocking, he said.

In such cases, people recognize the absurdity of their position, worry it reflects badly on them and reconsider it, he said.

If the extreme messages become a normal part of the political debate, the moderating effect goes away, the study found.

Violence is most likely to occur, Hameiri added, when political leaders use "dehumanizing language" to describe their opponents.

Most experts worried that the talk of conflict here, armed or otherwise, was serving to raise the prospects of unrest and diminish trust in America's already beleaguered institutions.

The latest warnings of civil war from diGenova drew an exasperated response from VoteVets, a liberal veterans advocacy group whose members have fought in actual civil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Amazing we have to say this but: 1. We are NOT in civil war. 2. Do NOT buy guns (or any weapons) to use against your fellow Americans," Jon Soltz, the group's chairman, tweeted in response to diGenova. "Trust us, we have seen war."

To survive the coming CIVIL WAR you must have crucifixes on the outside all of your outside doors of home for protection. Read more...

"America, your country, the United States, a land of plenty, has never witnessed mass slaughter and death, but My children, unless and I say, unless you turn back now, your country will witness death such as never has gripped the heart of man before, a terror brought about by the knowledge that there has been a rejection of truth, a rejection of your God." - Jesus, December 7, 1976

"Your country, America the Great, and your neighbor, Canada, have set themselves, by their actions that offend the Eternal Father, onto a road of chastisement. Your country, My children, the United States, has not known the terror, the agonizing heartbreak of death in the streets. You are fast approaching a major calamity. Blood shall flow in your streets." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 1, 1975

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These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995.

SUBMACHINE GUNS
Veronica - I see a road. It looks like a normal country road, but it leads to a city, A great city. I would say from the buildings the city looks like New York. But I see there are very sinister looking characters walking down the road nonchalantly but carrying bags. Within those bags there are submachine guns.
Jesus - "Yes, My child!"
Veronica - Jesus is pointing in anger at what he sees.
Jesus - "I see murder ahead now, My child, in your city of New York. Many shall be mowed down. It is an attack by a communist nation.
    "No, My child, you do not need to know at this time the name of this nation, for it will soon be known when the captors are picked up. The Federal Bureau of Investigation will hear of this, My child, and they will try to stop them." -Jesus, October 1, 1988

YOU WOULD GROVEL ON YOUR KNEES
"If only I could show you, the prideful and boastful United States and Canada—if I could show you what the enemy has in store for you now, you would grovel on your knees to make restitution to the Eternal Father. But now this must be taught to you in a most sorrowful way." - Our Lady of the Roses, September 27, 1986

SHALL BE CHASTISED
"Your country, the United States of America, shall be chastised. My heart is bereaved by the knowledge of the loss of great life that will come about in this minor chastisement. Wars are a punishment for man's sins." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1979

YOU LIVE IN A DREAM WORLD
"My children, awaken from your slumber! You live in a dream world. You believe that this cannot happen to you. O My poor children in North America—Canada, the United States-you do not know what it is to see the blood flow in the streets, to see your loved ones torn—their arms, their legs missing, their bodies and their bowels spewing out upon the grounds. Is this what you want?" - Our Lady of the Roses, June 18, 1982

NATIONS THAT LISTENED
"How many times I came upon earth to try to warn you. Those nations that listened were free from harm. But they had to pray the Rosary—the Rosary and the Scapular."
Our Lady of the Roses, April 14, 1984

MEDIAS ARE FULLY CONTROLLED
"The medias are controlled, fully controlled, My child. Therefore, you cannot judge from the written word or the visual approach.” – Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1976

“YOU WILL OFTEN BE DELUDED”
"Your news media, My children, are controlled, as other means of communication. You must be very careful what you read now, for you will often be deluded. Much that is credited as coming from the Holy Father is not coming from him, but from those about him who are now in full control.
     "The forces, the red forces are gathering within the Eternal City of Rome and throughout all of Europe, My children. Unless man turns back quickly, blood shall flow in the streets. Revolution shall come, and many shall die. The world is entering a time of great trial. Pray a constant vigilance of prayer, My children." – Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1976

VULTURES ARE GATHERING FOR THE KILL
"My children, parents, you must be now guardian of your children's souls. Satan is doing major battle upon the teachers in My Son's House.
     "Your governments, your medias of communication, your medias of entertainment are now fully controlled. The United States of America has been plucked. The vultures are gathering for the kill.” – Our Lady of the Roses, April 2, 1977

MEDIAS CONTROLLED BY THE EVIL ONES
“Much--most now, My children, of your medias are controlled by the evil ones. It will take man of great knowledge and light to fully be able to understand what is true, truth, what is fact, or what has been made fiction by the enemies of your God. It is a known fact that now, My children, your newspapers are controlled. Your television is an agent of satan, an abominable agent of satan, corrupters of souls.

     "Many priests, bishops, cardinals in My Son's House need prayers from the laity that they may be strong enough not to fall into the plan of the third worlders, who are also known, My child, as the one worlders. They seek to destroy My Son's Church and build one on the creation of man. My Son has cried many times great tears of sorrow and has said: 'Will there be any faith left when I return? Will I find even a small flickering of faith left in their hearts when I return?' It truly rains teardrops from Heaven!” – Our Lady of the Roses, October 6, 1976

ALL MEDIAS INFILTRATED AND CONTROLLED
"Many of your medias--I will say all of your medias now, My children--have been infiltrated and controlled.” – Our Lady of the Roses, July 14, 1979

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"A country is known by the moral values, My children. In the history of your world, if you consult and look, My children, you will find that your country and many in your world are now proceeding along the same course taken before the fall of an empire!" - Our Lady of the Roses, February 10, 1976

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Directives from Heaven... https://www.tldm.org/directives/directives.htm

D12 - One World Government/Religion PDF
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D42 - Mass Media PDF
D101 - Russia and China, Part 1 PDF
D102 - Russia and China, Part 2 PDF
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D104 - Invasion PDF
D122 - Antichrist PDF
D133 - The Apocalypse/Revelations PDF
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D156 - Terrorism PDF
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D224 - Restore America to One Nation Under God PDF
D309 - Masons and Illuminati PDF
D368 - Highest Places of Government PDF
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Terrorism prophecies in Our Lady's message:

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