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Scholars Refute Cdl. Roche’s Claim that Devotion to Latin Mass is ‘More Protestant than Catholic’...

LATIN TO REMAIN
"It was the will of the Eternal Father that one universal language be used along with, in comparison with, together with the language of the land. This universal language, Latin, befit and was chosen by the Eternal Father as a universal language for the universal Church, the Roman Catholic Church under the leadership of Pope Paul VI, the successor of Peter....
    "Because of the fall in Babylon, many new languages were given because of the sin of Babylon. Therefore, as a member of one country, My children, with a universal language, you carried with you your own country's translation, and were you to visit abroad, you could enter upon any foreign edifice, Church of My Son, and feel comfortable and in one with the man, the priest, the one chosen by My Son to represent Him in His House.
    "If you were, My child, to go from your United States to France, could you understand the words in French? But, My child, you would recognize the words in Latin and you would have your book with you to read in your American language, just as those in France could read in their French language, bringing upon the world a beautiful and common bond of language among all who have been given the grace to be called to the Roman Catholic Church of My Son.
    "Do not leave My Son's Church though, My children, because they have taken this language from among you. You must wait and persevere and weep with My Son for this defilement by man."  - Our Lady, April 10, 1976

TURN BACK
"This evil has penetrated far into the very heart of My House. You must now turn back and restore My House. I, your God, give you this command for the salvation of your own soul." - Jesus, August 21, 1976

”I send to My clergy, those whom I have given the grace to represent Heaven upon earth, this warning: You must now return to your traditional rites! You must restore My House from its crumbling exterior and rotting interior. You must rebuild what you seek to destroy--now!
     "Many who call themselves My chosen ones have set themselves to destroy from within. Your actions have not gone by unnoticed by the Eternal Father. Error, deception, deceit, in the guise of sanctity and piousness! You are unmasked before the Eternal Father. You shall start little by little and repair the foundation, or you shall be within and destroy.
     "I look upon all manner of abominations being committed in My House. Do you think you will go much longer without chastisement? Awaken from your slumber, My clergy! You deceive no one!” - Jesus, November 22, 1975

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LifeSiteNews.com reported on September 1, 2022:

by Michael Haynes

Traditional Catholics, scholars, and theologians have firmly rejected recent comments made by the head of the Vatican’s liturgy department, when he suggested that devotion to the Latin Mass is a mark of being “more Protestant than you are Catholic.”

This past weekend, when Pope Francis bestowed the red hat on Archbishop Roche and made him a cardinal, the head of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (CDW) gave two interviews in which he strongly attacked devotees of the Church’s Tradition and the traditional Mass. 

Speaking to The Tablet and the National Catholic Reporter, Cardinal Roche said that the Novus Ordo Mass was part of a necessary “reform,” and any opposition to it, or the Second Vatican Council, meant that people were at risk of becoming “becoming more Protestant than you are Catholic.”  

He expanded this theme when speaking to Crux. Citing the example of the English martyrs during the Protestant “Reformation,” Roche said that the tortures endured by these priests were for “two things: for the Mass, and in faithfulness to the See of Peter, in faithfulness to the pope.”

Mentioning the celebration of Mass as a “point of unity” with the Pope, Roche added: “If you take that seriously, then it raises for all of us an examination of conscience with regard to how we view that: Is that really something that we view seriously, or are we trying to create another church? Are we trying to be Protestant instead of Catholic?”

His comments created instant consternation amongst Catholics. “This is rich, considering that six Protestant ministers helped create the New Mass,” wrote Catholic Family News’ managing editor Matt Gaspers. 

Cdl. Roche: "In the end people have to ask themselves: am I really a Catholic or am I more of a Protestant?"

This is rich, considering that six Protestant ministers helped create the New Mass! Read all about it, courtesy of @LouisTofari and @remnantnews: https://t.co/VTMFfBsiLl https://t.co/S2UcHIar11

— Matt Gaspers (@MattGaspers) August 27, 2022

Traditional Catholics treated ‘like the children of the house who are locked in the cellar’

Speaking to LifeSiteNews, Dr. Joseph Shaw – the Chairman of the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales and President of Una Voce International – highlighted the example of the English martyrs. “Cardinal Roche rightly points out the characteristic of English Catholic resistance to Protestantism during the period of persecution combined fidelity to the Mass with attachment to the Office of the Pope,” he said. 

These are also very strong traits of the traditional movement, including the Una Voce Federation, representatives of which (as he says) he has been meeting. These, like our heroic predecessors, are firmly attached to the Church’s ancient liturgical tradition, and are so concerned with the Office of the Pope that we refuse to content ourselves with celebrations which are canonically irregular, such as those of the Society of Pius X.

Dr. Shaw noted how the cardinal “seems to suggest that this makes us Protestant, but I have never read that followers of Luther and Calvin travelled to Rome to beg the Holy See to allow them to use ancient Catholic liturgical forms.” 

“But we have done this,” he added, “and come to that representatives of the SSPX have done the same thing.”

Shaw suggested that “it is difficult to avoid the impression that some in Rome would prefer it if our attitude was indeed more Protestant.” 

If we really did set up our own parallel churches, we would stop bothering them, and perhaps they would start talking about intercommunion and ecumenical respect. As it is, we are like the children of the house who are locked in the cellar while the parents are entertaining strangers upstairs.

‘Arguable’ that the new Mass is ‘incompatible with the liturgical norms’ of Vatican II

In line with Dr. Shaw’s consternation, a Dominican theologian described the cardinal’s comments as “regrettable,” saying “one wonders how he can imply that the traditional Roman Mass cannot serve as a vehicle of evangelisation, when it has been the means of evangelising much of the world. Has human nature mysteriously changed since the evangelisation of the new world in the 16th century, or the evangelisation of sub-Saharan Africa in the 19th and 20th?”

In email comments to LifeSite, the Dominican observed that while Roche spoke of Vatican II, “evidently, this council did not lay down as a law that Catholics should attend the Mass of Pope Paul VI, since this Mass was not promulgated until some years after the council had ended.”

“On the other hand,” he said, “the council did state that the Church wished to preserve all lawfully existing rites, and to foster them in every way.”

This is exactly what the so-called “traditionalists” are doing in regard to the beautiful and dignified Roman rite, and they should therefore be warmly commended as loyal sons of the Church. The council also stated, in regard to the liturgy, that “there must be no innovations unless the good of the Church genuinely and certainly requires them; and [that] care must be taken that any new forms adopted should in some way grow organically from forms already existing.” 

“It is, to say the least, arguable that the Mass of Pope Paul VI violates these requirements, and that it is therefore incompatible with the liturgical norms of the second Vatican Council,” he added.

“Cardinal Roche mentions the glorious martyrs of the English reformation. I have no doubt that they would have been deeply saddened if they had been shown a vision of a typical Mass today,” continued the theologian. “Who can imagine St. Edmund Campion saying a Eucharistic prayer composed in a restaurant, or St. Margaret Clitherow volunteering to give out the chalice?”

‘English martyrs would not recognise the Novus Ordo as a Catholic Mass’

Deacon Nick Donnelly echoed this observation, saying that “the English martyrs would not recognise the Novus Ordo as a Catholic Mass.” He suggested instead that, “with its table altars, vernacular, priest facing the people and communion in the hands, the English martyrs would think it a Calvinistic communion service. They would assume that Roche was an apostate.”

The English martyrs would not recognise the Novus Ordo as a Catholic Mass

With its table altars, vernacular, priest facing the people and communion in the hands the English martyrs would think it a Calvinistic communion service

They would assume that Roche was an apostate https://t.co/y3XtroDmWD

— Nick Donnelly (@ProtecttheFaith) August 31, 2022

Indeed, writing on traditional blog Rorate Caeli, liturgist Dr. Peter Kwasniewski extensively highlighted that “the liturgical reform after Vatican II — going far beyond the conciliar remit — emulated, in dozens of ways, the liturgical “reforms” fashioned by Cranmer and imposed on England by its rulers. The Book of Common Prayer was a revolution in the lex orandi so that it might reflect and promote a Protestant lex credendi.”

Pointing to a 2001 lecture given by then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Kwasniewski wrote that “not only Cranmer’s actions, then, but Luther’s theology also influenced the architects of the Novus Ordo.”

“An explicit intention of the modern Catholic liturgical reforms was an ecumenism designed to bring Catholics and Protestants together,” added Kwasniewski, who is soon to publish a book – The Once and Future Roman Rite: Returning to the Latin Liturgical Tradition after Seventy Years of Exile – which highlights, among other aspects, how the “the original Protestants” mirror “their latter-day descendents in the radical wing of the Liturgical Movement that produced the Novus Ordo.” 

He noted also the testimony of philosopher Jean Guitton, a close personal friend of Paul VI, who recounted “there was with Paul VI an ecumenical intention to remove, or at least to correct or to relax what was too Catholic, in the traditional sense, in the Mass, and, I repeat, to bring the Catholic Mass closer to the Calvinist Mass.”

Meanwhile, Cardinal Roche did not respond to LifeSite’s questions over the weekend regarding his restrictions on the Latin Mass, and the possibility of lifting them, deflecting all responsibility to Pope Francis. 

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"Because of the fall in Babylon, many new languages were given because of the sin of Babylon. Therefore, as a member of one country, My children, with a universal language, you carried with you your own country's translation, and were you to visit abroad, you could enter upon any foreign edifice, Church of My Son, and feel comfortable and in one with the man, the priest, the one chosen by My Son to represent Him in His House.
    "If you were, My child, to go from your United States to France, could you understand the words in French? But, My child, you would recognize the words in Latin and you would have your book with you to read in your American language, just as those in France could read in their French language, bringing upon the world a beautiful and common bond of language among all who have been given the grace to be called to the Roman Catholic Church of My Son.
    "Do not leave My Son's Church though, My children, because they have taken this language from among you. You must wait and persevere and weep with My Son for this defilement by man." - Our Lady, April 10, 1976

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YOU WILL STOP EXPERIMENTING
"My child and My children, I come once more with an urgent and pleading message to the hierarchy in the Church, My Church upon earth. I want you to know now that We look upon you and find many that do not fall into grace. They are falling out of grace and misleading many of Our sheep.
     "Therefore, I warn you now as your God: You will stop your intricacies within My Church. You will stop experimenting. I gave you the rules to follow many years ago, two thousand years approximately. And why now, two thousand years later, do you deem it necessary to change My Church upon earth? I, your God, say to you, you will be judged accordingly. You will return My Church to its former glory, and in that manner you will have more vocations and more entering the seminaries, and not fleeing from them as they hear the heresies and all other innovations that are going on within My Church. This is My last and final word to My clergy: Change now or suffer a just punishment and banishment." - Jesus, June 18, 1986

RETURN TO YOUR TRADITIONAL RITES
”I send to My clergy, those whom I have given the grace to represent Heaven upon earth, this warning: You must now return to your traditional rites! You must restore My House from its crumbling exterior and rotting interior. You must rebuild what you seek to destroy--now!
     "Many who call themselves My chosen ones have set themselves to destroy from within. Your actions have not gone by unnoticed by the Eternal Father. Error, deception, deceit, in the guise of sanctity and piousness! You are unmasked before the Eternal Father. You shall start little by little and repair the foundation, or you shall be within and destroy.
     "I look upon all manner of abominations being committed in My House. Do you think you will go much longer without chastisement? Awaken from your slumber, My clergy! You deceive no one!”  - Jesus, November 22, 1975

CHANGING THE CONSTRUCTION
“You will not bring about a conversion of those who are presently apostate by compromising your Faith or changing the construction of the exterior lines of My Church; and by that I mean the physical appearance and the manner in which you conduct the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
     “Many are giving My Body in a manner that can only be called blasphemy. Many are accepting My Body in the Eucharist in a manner that defames the Divinity, and also promotes unholiness, paganism, and impurity of heart and actions during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” - Jesus, May 26, 1979

CHANGES MUST BE STOPPED AND REVERSED
"There is no excuse accepted now by the Eternal Father among the clergy, who now offend the Eternal Father by misleading the children of God upon earth. The experimentation and changes must be stopped and reversed! There is no other course.” – Our Lady, August 4, 1979

“RESTORE MY HOUSE!”
"My Mother has given you My way. It is a simple road that must be followed. The rules have been given to you that must not be changed, as you cater to the basic carnal nature of man, a generation that has fallen! You will not make changes within My House, for you have dispersed My sheep. You will restore My House to its former glory. Strip you hearts of your pride! Recognize your errors and restore My House!
     "I say this to you for your Creator, as your God: Restore My House, or I shall come down and restore it Myself with a firm hand! And shall you stand before Me, O pastors, and say that your teachings have been pure in My sight? I shall take you and spit you out as spittle into the fires of eternal damnation! Vermin that came out of the flowers!”  – Jesus, December 28, 1976

STOP CHANGE AND NOVELTY
"My child and My children, make it known to all that the road to Heaven was never easy, but you can make it much easier upon yourselves and your families if you follow the rules, if you follow the Commandments from the Eternal Father. The changes that We see taking place in My House and upon earth are not good, for many, many souls are falling into hell. And a great measure of responsibility now is with those who have been called to the holy orders, who have given themselves to represent Me upon earth. Shall I say that I have found many Judases now within My House? Cannot this situation be changed?
     "There is only one way that this can be stopped, this evil that has seeped into My House and into the hearts of all mankind. You must stop now your seeking for change and novelty. You must restore My Church to its former glory. Admit your error. Do not conceal this with pride and arrogance.
     "Remember there was the time when it was necessary to cast Luciel and his followers from Heaven--Lucifer, who now goads you on to hell with him, upon earth. He had to be cast from Heaven because he, too, became prideful and arrogant, seeking to make himself another living god. This cannot be done. You cannot be above your Creator.” – Jesus, September 7, 1978

DO NOT ACCEPT
"My children, you must retain Tradition; you must retain a firm foundation of your faith by keeping all of the good publications. Do not accept the changes that have been made by satan to seduce your souls.” – Jesus, November 19, 1977

INDOCTRINATED
Veronica - The books are being changed to cover the evil being perpetrated now. The young are being indoctrinated to accept changes which will take away Tradition and even doctrine. Our Lady said we must all pray a constant vigilance of prayer. It has a great power over the demons. – November 19, 1977

NOT FROM HOLY SPIRIT
"I must, My child, make it known at this time that you must go back in the immediate years and bring the knowledge to mankind that these changes, the changes that have given bad fruits, have not been given to you through the Holy Spirit and through your Vicar, Pope Paul VI. It is the web of satan reaching out. Many are now, My child, puppets. The strings are being pulled by Benelli, Villot, and Casaroli and their followers.” – Our Lady, September 27, 1975

YOU HAVE STRAYED
"O My children, how far you have strayed from the truth! The knowledge given to you by your prophets were written down in truth to guide you, but now you change the words to suit your basic carnal human natures. Go back and read, My children, the true words of your prophets. But do not accept changes in the Book, for these changes have been promoted by satan. Heresy, O mournful heresy, whatever shall become of you!
     "Parents, I caution you anew to guard the souls of your children by your teaching and example. You cannot save your children's souls by giving them to false teachers and the world, for the world has now been given to satan.” – Our Lady, June 5, 1976

“WE DO NOT CONDONE VARIATIONS AND CHANGES"
"It has grieved Me much in the past, as it grieves Me now, that mankind is making changes to My words. I assure you, My children and pastors within My houses, My Church upon earth, there is no necessity to change My words. Heaven, hell, purgatory, and especially, My children, the word 'hell' must be retained in your prayers.
     "Repeat, My child, the confessional prayer.
     O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I confess to all my sins, because I dread the loss of Heaven and the pains of hell, but most of all because I love Thee, my God, Who are all-good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Amen.
     "Yes, My child, We do not condone variations and changes. It is the enemies of your God that have set themselves to promote change upon My words. The word of your God is eternal and must not be changed.” – Jesus, February 10, 1977

ONLY SATAN SEEKS CHANGE
"We ask--the Eternal Father speaks, and demands that all bishops in the houses of God throughout your world must turn back to prayer. They must turn back from the road they have chosen, a road filled with error, corruption, and sin. Man will not make changes in the House of God to please the basic carnal nature of mankind! But man in the House of God--the leaders, the clergy chosen by the Eternal Father, shall turn man from his path of destruction and bring him into the House of God. This he will not accomplish by lowering the rule or standards. Man must change his ways and follow the ways of God.
     "You are, My children, living in the era of Antichrist. Recognize the signs of your times, and you will not fall into error. Read the Book, My children. You read books of corruption and vile debauchery. Restore the truth in your heart, into your children and homes. Open the good Book, the Bible, and read it in your homes.
     "My Son has already set up the rule for the houses throughout the world, the churches. They are written in the Book of love and life, the Bible. Read and learn, and follow the truth!
     "There is no time or change in Heaven. The Father never changes. It is only satan who seeks change to disturb, corrupt, and degrade. Satan roams wherever there is darkness of spirit. He will debase mankind in a manner so foul that you will know that no human could conceive of such vileness of sin.” – Our Lady, March 22, 1975

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https://www.tldm.org/News11/VaticanToReinforceShiftOnLatinMass.htm

University of Notre Dame students demand Latin Mass after rescript
https://www.tldm.org/News11/NotreDameStudentsDemandLatinMass.htm

The case for the Latin Mass
https://www.tldm.org/news5/latinmass.htm 

Latin: the universal language of the Catholic Church
https://www.tldm.org/news5/latin.htm

Pope Benedict XVI on the disintegration of the liturgy
https://www.tldm.org/news7/PopeBenedictXVIDisintegrationOfLiturgy.htm

Pope Benedict XVI and his support for the Old Mass
https://www.tldm.org/News8/PopeBenedictSupportsOldMass.htm

The removal of the Latin Mass by the impostor pope (replaced Pope Paul VI); the restoration by Pope Benedict XVI
https://www.tldm.org/News11/LatinMassRemovedByImpostorPope.htm

Msgr. Klaus Gamber's insights are strikingly close to Our Lady of the Roses messages on the Mass and tradition
https://www.tldm.org/news6/Gamber.htm

Cardinal Arinze questions suitability of guitars at Mass
https://www.tldm.org/News8/ArinzeQuestionsGuitarMasses.htm

Pro multis means "for many," Vatican rules
https://www.tldm.org/News9/ForMany.htm

Cardinal Arinze: Catholics are "forced to endure" secularization in liturgy which "does damage to Catholic faith"
https://www.tldm.org/News10/ArinzeSecularizationInLiturgy.htm

Vatican official acknowledges liturgical crisis
https://www.tldm.org/News10/VaticanAcknowledgesLiturgicalCrisis.htm

Knees to love Jesus
https://www.tldm.org/News10/KneesToLoveJesus.htm

Bishop Vasa: Dress, demeanor, discipline show how we value Holy Mass
https://www.tldm.org/News10/modestyBishopVasa.htm

“Kneel before your God in the Eucharist”
https://www.tldm.org/News5/kneeling.htm 

Vatican on kneeling for holy Communion
https://www.tldm.org/vatican%20letter.htm 

Should women cover their heads in Church?
https://www.tldm.org/news6/veils.htm 

Pope John Paul II recommends praying the St. Michael Exorcism
https://www.tldm.org/news6/exorcism.htm 

Restore the high altar
https://www.tldm.org/news5/main%5Faltar.htm

"You cannot separate Tradition from your Faith"
https://www.tldm.org/news6/tradition1.htm 

Vatican II, part 1: Infiltration of the Church
https://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-1.htm

Vatican II, part 2: Dark clouds forming before Vatican II
https://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-2.htm

Vatican II, part 3: the satanic revolution gains momentum at the Council
https://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-3.htm

Links...

Mass appeal to Latin tradition, Washington Times, October 28, 2007
http://washingtontimes.com/article/20071028/NATION/110280043/1001

Latin Mass returns to Mexico City's cathedral, California Catholic
http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=ff5cc479-c389-4714-894f-3c26f58d2668

Why Latin? The Latin Mass Society of Ireland
http://indigo.ie/~colmgren/latsoc/template/latin_hist.htm

The Popes on the Latin language, Una Voce
http://www.unavoce.org/popes.htm

Pope John Paul II strongly encourages use of “immortal language”, Una Voce
http://www.unavoce.org/popelatin.htm

The Sacredness of Tradition, by Alice Von Hildebrand

Una Voce website
www.unavoce.org

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