Vatican appointed seminary investigator says homosexuals should not be ordained

Vatican-appointed seminary investigator says homosexuals should not be ordained...

"And why, My children, will this great War come about, the war to end all wars? Because of man's sin! In your country, My children, in your seminaries in the United States and Canada, My children, and the world, you have professors now so steeped in sin . . . they who call themselves My Son's chosen priests, they are vile sons of satan who are now rationalizing sin! There shall be no rationalization placed upon sin. The commandments shall not be looked at objectively and given to excuses, or reasoning to condone sin! No, My children, it is the minds poisoned by satan that spread this filth and error, this distortion of doctrine, this distortion of Tradition, and this distortion of your Faith! Awaken, pastors, from your slumber! Can you, O bishops, not spare but the little time to look into your seminaries? I say but one expression to you: they have become hell-holes of error and heresy! Clean out your seminaries, My bishops!” – Our Lady of the Roses, October 2, 1976

LifeSiteNews reported on September 8, 2005:

Archbishop Edwin O’Brien, the bishop of the US Catholic Military Archdiocese and the prelate picked to lead the official investigation of the US Catholic seminaries has told Catholic News Service that even celibate homosexuals ought not to be ordained.

“I think anyone who has engaged in homosexual activity, or has strong homosexual inclinations, would be best not to apply to a seminary and not to be accepted into a seminary,” said O’Brien. O’Brien is also known for his strong and outspoken views on abortion and, being a bishop without a territorial diocese, is in a position of some de facto autonomy from the rest of the US bishops.

It is likely that he will be facing serious opposition to completely banning homosexuals from the seminaries. An unwillingness to speak plainly about homosexuality has characterized the US bishops’ response to the priestly sex abuse scandals that was the trigger for the Vatican-ordered “visitation” of US seminaries.

The political tightrope-walking bishops’ method has been to “go positive” with warm statements of support for the “beauty and giftedness” of homosexuals as individuals, tinged with an apologetic distancing from the Church’s teaching on homosexuality as an inherently disordered condition that tempts persons afflicted with it to sin.

A typical example of these kinds of offerings comes from Bishop J. Terry Stein of Memphis in a June 5th column in The West Tennessee Catholic. Bishop Steib wrote to announce the establishment of a diocesan ministry to homosexual Catholics saying in a suitably soulful tone, “A new ministry with gay and lesbian persons will push open even further the door to promoting understanding and compassion among all of us. It will open the door to [the Church] for many who are an important part of who we are, and to a segment of our family that has been apart from us for too long.” Bishop Steib tops his column off with the obligatory comparison between the “oppression” of homosexuals in the Church and the injustice of slavery.

In the US Conference of Catholic Bishops’ own report on the sex abuse scandals however, the facts are inescapable. Over 80% of those abused by priests were male adolescents. Further, if the legal cases of homosexual abuse by numerous bishops themselves are taken into account, the opposition to “de-gaying” of the priesthood could be very strong indeed.

The difficulties are, moreover, not limited to the US hierarchy. The long-expected Vatican document on homosexuality and the priesthood is being delayed by influential opposition to its reportedly strong stand against ordaining gay men.

Read previous LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Vatican Investigation of US Seminaries to be Led by Strongly Pro-Life Bishop
http://www.the-tidings.com/2005/0812/esays.htm

Catholic News Service coverage:
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cns/200509...

Read Bishop Steib’s column:
http://www.everyvoice.net/modules.php?op=modload&a...

"Yes, My child, I want you to let the world know that Our seminaries were not pure. Many had entered for this very day to try to destroy the Faith and the Church of My Son. You must know that the Eternal Father will not permit this. The world is fast hurtling to a baptism of fire.” – Our Lady of the Roses, May 17, 1986

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D174 - Homosexuality, Part 2 PDF
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D177 - Seminaries PDF

Articles…

U.S. seminaries: "Hell-holes of error and heresy"
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries.htm

Clear Vatican statement against ordaining homosexuals: "a person who is homosexual or has homosexual tendencies is not, therefore, suitable to receive the sacrament of sacred orders."
https://www.tldm.org/News5/Estevez.htm

Bishop D'Arcy urges ban on gay priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/D'Arcy.htm

Philippine Bishops Conference bans homosexual seminarians and priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/PhilippineBishopsBanHomosexuals.htm

Austrian seminary: no more homosexuals
https://www.tldm.org/News7/HomosexualityAustrianSeminary.htm

John Paul II orders cleanup of U.S. seminaries
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries2.htm

Bishop Galante, spokesman for the U.S. bishops, protected homosexual priests
https://www.tldm.org/news5/galante.htm

New head of bishops' review board on sexual assault by priests: "Very disappointed" in bishops
https://www.tldm.org/news6/burke.htm

John Paul II: men with deviant affections cannot be priests
https://www.tldm.org/news5/deviants.htm

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder
https://www.tldm.org/news7/GayMentalDisorder.htm

Our Lady of the Roses gave 17 requests to save America from annihilation
https://www.tldm.org/news5/17-steps.htm

Homosexuality and Hope: excerpts taken from a document by the Catholic Medical Association
https://www.tldm.org/news6/ssa.htm

Homosexuality: dispelling the lies
https://www.tldm.org/News4/homosexuality2.htm

What the Bible says about homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/News6/homosexuality3.htm

What the Saints say about the sin of homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news7/homosexualitySaints.htm

Supreme Court Justice Burger speaks out against homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news6/homosexuality1.htm

Links…

Bishop in charge of seminary inspections says no room for men with strong homosexual inclinations, National Catholic Register, September 4-10, 2005
http://www.ncregister.com/articulo.php?artkod=NTU-

How America's Catholic Church crucified itself, [London] Times Online, March 13, 2005

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-1517560,00.html

Vatican Monsignor says gays shouldn’t be priests, Washington Times, September 20, 2002

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020920-85049356.htm

Catholic official argues against gay priests, Modesto Bee, September 19, 2002

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/story/543081p-4290797c.html

Pope to Church: Risky seminarians must go, National Catholic Register, Sept. 15-21, 2002

http://www.ncregister.com/Register_News/091002sem.htm

Pope John Paul II: Men with deviant affections can’t be priests, ABC News, September 5, 2002

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20020905_339.html

Catholic Medical Association: Homosexuality and Hope
http://www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.html

Oakland seminary housing sex offering priests, [St. Albert's Seminary, Oakland, CA], November 28, 2004
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/iteam/112804_iteam_seminary.html

Silenced priest warns of gay priest crisis, The Washington Times, November 15, 2004
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041115-124042-2061r.htm

Secrets, silence, and sins [St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary, Hannibal, Missouri], St. Louis Today, November 14, 2004
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0958D07B6CE7AD1286256F4B0062F52B?OpenDocument&Headline=Secrets,+sins+and+silence

The Lavender Mafia: Homosexual Culture Undercuts Priesthood, [St. Mary’s Seminary of Baltimore, MD, nicknamed “The Pink Palace”] NewsMax, April 5, 2002

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/4/192430.shtml

Boston Seminary linked to problem priests [St. John’s Seminary, Boston, MA] Boston Herald, March 3, 2002

http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/prie03032002.htm

Menlo Park Vice [St. Patrick’s Seminary, Menlo Park, CA]

http://www.sffaith.com/ed/articles/2000/0400er.htm

Pope Tells Church to Improve Priest Vetting, Boston.com, February 1, 2005
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/02/01/pope_tells_church_to_improve_priest_vetting/

Local clergy disagree about gay priests [St. John’s Seminary, Camarillo, CA] Ventura County Star, May 19, 2002)

http://www.insidevc.com/vcs/county_news/article/0,1375,VCS_226_1155621,00.html

Standing up to Bishop Adamec, Fatima Centre

http://www.fatima.org/perspective234.htm

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http://www.rcf.org/docs/sexualunderworld.htm

The gay priest problem, Catholic World Report, November 2000

http://us.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Igpress/2000-11/essay.html

It just didn’t happen, Crisis magazine, May 1, 2002

http://www.crisismagazine.com/endnotes.htm

The Greatest Conspiracy (infiltration of Catholic seminaries) Christian Order magazine

http://www.christianorder.com/editorials/editorials_2000/editorials_nov00.html

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