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The Third Secret of Fatima Warned Against Vatican Council II and the New Mass...

"Pastors, those who have in their care Our sheep, you must stop now these changes that you seek in novelty, for they are destroying the young souls and scattering Our sheep.
   "I repeat, My children, the great Council in Rome of Vatican II, the promises were great, but satan sat among you and he played you like the chess board.
   "You were given a foundation of Faith based on Tradition and knowledge of the prophets. You cannot start this new religion, for it will lead you to one religion that is not of My Son, that will not have His true foundation, and you will take My Son's Body and defame it, no longer giving the knowledge of His divinity. What manner of foul escapades are you planning, O you of little faith? Whatever shall become of you? The Red Hats have fallen and the Purple Hats are being misled. Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth!
  "My child, do not slacken in your work because of the opinion of man. Know, My child, that it is not you who are speaking but the voice from Heaven." - Our Lady, August 5, 1976

The above Messages from Our Lady were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York. Read more

Fatima Crusader reported on May 2009:

An Exclusive Fatima Crusader Interview with Father Paul Kramer

Question: Who is Cardinal Ottaviani, and what did he say about the Third Secret of Fatima?

[Father Kramer] Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani was prefect of the Holy Office, and at the time, the Holy Office was the preeminent discastery of the Roman Curia. He was the one who pronounced on orthodoxy. Also, he had the jurisdiction over the final approval or disapproval of apparitions. He stated in an address he gave in 1967 at the Antonianum, that the Third Secret of Fatima is set forth on one sheet of paper.

Question: Who is Cardinal Ciappi and what did he say about the Third Secret?

[Father Kramer] Cardinal Mario Luigi Ciappi was a Dominican priest who had been made a Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. He was Papal Theologian under Paul VI, John Paul I and early in the reign of Pope John Paul II. Cardinal Ciappi stated in his letter to Professor Baumgartner that in the Third Secret it is revealed, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.

Question: Could Cardinal Ciappi be telling the truth? Isn’t “apostasy” too strong a word?

[Father Kramer] I know there are some people who find some difficulty with the idea that there could be an apostasy in the Church, or a great apostasy in the Church. Some people do seem to think that the word is rather strong.

However, it was not too strong for St. Paul to use this term, because he was the one who foretold that before the coming of the man of sin, the Antichrist, there would be this great falling away, a great apostasy.

So it is not surprising that Our Lady of Fatima would warn about this apostasy in the Church, because this is already a teaching enshrined in Sacred Scripture by the great Apostle himself, St. Paul.

Question: How do you reply to those who say that Our Lady would never make such a claim that the Church itself, the spotless Bride of Christ, would enter a period of apostasy?

[Father Kramer] To those who find difficulty with this idea, that the Church, the Bride of Christ, could ever enter into a period of apostasy, I respond that Our Lord Jesus Christ said, “Behold, I have told you all of these things in advance.” How can we question the word of God? The suffering that the Church, as the Mystical Body of Christ, must undergo is described prophetically, for example, in the Book of Lamentations. It is described again prophetically in the Book of the Prophet Daniel, and in the Apocalypse, where we see there will be a great apostasy and a great persecution of the remnant of faithful; and that God will preserve them in their faith, so that the elect will be preserved.

Question: Do you see a connection between the Third Secret of Fatima and the introduction of the New Mass?

[Father Kramer] Sister Lucy of Fatima, in reference to the Message of Fatima, said that there would take place a diabolical disorientation in the Church. And there is nothing that could do more to bring that about than a liturgical revolution that would en- shrine alien principles into a seemingly Catholic liturgy.

As a matter of fact, there is more substance to the question of a diabolical disorientation. I am referring to the part of the Third Secret of Fatima that has not yet been revealed. I know this to be a fact because I have personally spoken with a German theologian and a seminary Rector who is a long-time close friend of Pope Benedict.

When Pope Benedict was still Cardinal Ratzinger, around 1990 he revealed to his friend that in the Third Secret of Fatima Our Lady warns not to change the liturgy: literally, not to mix extraneous foreign elements into the Catholic liturgy.

Now, of course, with the New Mass of Pope Paul VI, that is exactly what was done. Elements of Protestantism, both in the symbolism and in the wording of the liturgy, were brought into and mixed into a Catholic framework to the extent that the makers of the new Rite flatly stated that this is no longer the Roman Rite, it is a new creation.

Father Joseph Gelineau was the right-hand man of Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, who is the architect of the new rite of Mass. Both Father Gelineau and Archbishop Bugnini plainly stated that the Novus Ordo Mass is a new creation; that the old rite of Mass, the Roman Rite, has been destroyed. Pope Paul VI announced in November of 1969 that his would be a new rite of Mass.

So there is no question about the new liturgy — the Novus Ordo liturgy — being somehow a revision and a continuation of the Roman Rite. No. It is a break with Catholic liturgical tradition.

So Our Lady of Fatima warned in the Third Secret not to make specifically this kind of change in the liturgy. Yet Pope Paul VI went forward and made those changes anyway.

Our Lady also warned that there would be an evil Council in the Church that would cause great scandal. And of course, it was the documents from Vatican II — the Constitution on the Liturgy — which gave the impetus for Pope Paul VI to reform the liturgy in such a disastrous manner that has caused such a loss of faith and confusion in the Church.

So we have Cardinal Ratzinger himself stating to a close personal friend that these warnings were given by Our Lady in the Third Secret of Fatima not to change the Mass in precisely the manner that Pope Paul VI changed the Mass.

Now after this took place, the German theologian who I am referring to went back to the country in South America where he was Rector of a seminary and he explained to a young priest what Cardinal Ratzinger had related to him. And precisely when he related that Our Lady warned against changing the Mass and there would be an evil Council in the Church, the both of them saw a plume of smoke coming up from the floor. Now it was a marble floor. This could not be any- thing of a natural phenomenon. Both the young priest and the old German Rector were so impressed they drew up a dossier and sent it to Cardinal Ratzinger.

Then on June 26, 2000, Cardinal Ratzinger published for the world the document [on the Third Secret] containing the vision of a “bishop in white”, claiming that the entire Secret is set forth in this document. Yet it can only be understood that way if we say that he is using a mental reservation; that what is set forth by Our Lady in Her words is already implicitly contained symbolically in the vision.

The elderly German priest, Ratzinger’s long-time personal friend, took note of the fact that when this vision of the Third Secret was published it did not contain those things, those elements of the Third Secret that Cardinal Ratzinger had revealed to him nearly ten years earlier. The German priest — Father Döllinger — told me that his question was burning in his mind on the day he concelebrated with Cardinal Ratzinger. Father Döllinger said to me, “I confronted Cardinal Ratzinger to his face.” And of course he asked Cardinal Ratzinger, “how can this be the entire Third Secret? Remember what you told me before?”

Cardinal Ratzinger was cornered. He didn’t know what to say and so he blurted out to his friend in German, “Wirklich gebt das der etwas” which means “really there is something more there,” mean- ing there is something more in the Third Secret. The Cardinal stated this quite plainly.

Question: This is an amazing story. Is Father Döllinger a credible witness?

[Father Kramer] I can say this much: we’re talking about an elderly priest, a long-time personal friend of Pope Benedict, a man who was a long-time personal acquaintance of St. Pio of Pietrelcina [Padre Pio]. In fact, he told me he had gone to confession to Padre Pio 58 times. This is a man who for many years was the Rector of a seminary in South America; a man who is highly esteemed, who is of great reputation in the Church.

I would also point out that in the diocese where he worked what I have said about the Third Secret, what Cardinal Ratzinger revealed to him, was common knowledge among the young priests who were seminarians and deacons at the time this man was Rector. They all know the story that Cardinal Ratzinger had told him.

As I mentioned, they had even put together a dossier and sent it to Cardinal Ratzinger. So he is a man of great credibility, worthy of credence; a man of great seriousness who is not given over to making up fabulous stories, or exaggerating self-importance. The man had no need of such things; he’s a man of utmost credibility.

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STARTED  WITH  GOOD  INTENTIONS
Bishops in My Son's House, Church, you have gone astray. You have scattered Our sheep. You have joined with all manner of heretics and false teachers. You started with good intentions in your Council, but you became deluded in your search for peace and brotherhood. You allowed all manner of error to creep slowly into My Son's House, Church. You must understand that you are setting in motion the formation of a World Council of Churches, but it will not be the Church of My Son. It will be a church of man, a church without the true foundation." - Our Lady, June 5, 1976

DISCORD  AND  DISUNITY
"The great Council, the Council that has brought forth discord, disunity, and the loss of souls, the major fact behind this destruction was because of the lack of prayer.
     Satan sat in within this Council, and he watched his advantage. He is now playing a game of chess with the Red Hats and the Purple Hats, moving them with great glee as he watches the evil accelerate, and all manners of people are flowing fast through the doors of the Holy City and all ecumenical bodies." - St. Michael, March 18, 1976

DOORS  WERE  OPENED
"O My children, recognize, I repeat, the signs of your times. You are fast selling yourselves into slavery. Your government and the governments of the world are now almost in full control of the agents of hell. The forces of 666 are firmly entrenched in your government, in the clergy—your pastors, your shepherds, your bishops; even satan has entered into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome.
   "My children, the Council of Vatican II was started with good intent, but the doors were opened to all manner of heretics, causing a slow pollution of the Faith. My children, you must now awaken the pastors from their slumber! They have given themselves over now to a new religion of man." - Our Lady, July 25, 1977

SATAN  WAS  PRESENT
"You will not destroy My Son's House, Church, by consorting with the enemies of My Son! You will not convert the enemy by lowering the standards. Your example must be one of a steadfast faith.
   "Change! What need is change when the foundation has stood through the test of time? It is a dissatisfied man, a greedy and lustful man who seeks change. Does he change to bring man to God? No! He changes to take man from God and give him to Lucifer!
   "Satan was present, he listened with careful ears at the great Council. He awaited every move, and he placed his agents among you! Recognize and reconstruct your path. You have been deluded. You are on the wrong road. Turn about now, or you will sow the seeds for your own destruction!
   "How many warnings will you receive before the hand of your Father will descend upon you? No date do I give unto all mankind, but only to few. All those who accept the grace given freely for the asking will not be caught unawares. They will prepare themselves. All mankind upon earth should prepare for his death.
   "We look upon a world where mankind goes about defaming himself and the Father, wallowing in all manners of lust and pleasure, abomination—even in the House of God! He lives as though he never will die. No human flesh will be eternal, but the soul is eternal and will live on forever." - Our Lady, August 14, 1974

ANOTHER  COUNCIL
"Watch, My child, what is to be. They will call another Council. Oh, but satan now has his plans. O woe, woe to evil man-what is to come upon them!" - Our Lady, February 1, 1974

LIKE  THE  CHESSBOARD
"Pastors, those who have in their care Our sheep, you must stop now these changes that you seek in novelty, for they are destroying the young souls and scattering Our sheep.
   "I repeat, My children, the great Council in Rome of Vatican II, the promises were great, but satan sat among you and he played you like the chess board.
   "You were given a foundation of Faith based on Tradition and knowledge of the prophets. You cannot start this new religion, for it will lead you to one religion that is not of My Son, that will not have His true foundation, and you will take My Son's Body and defame it, no longer giving the knowledge of His divinity. What manner of foul escapades are you planning, O you of little faith? Whatever shall become of you? The Red Hats have fallen and the Purple Hats are being misled. Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth!
  "My child, do not slacken in your work because of the opinion of man. Know, My child, that it is not you who are speaking but the voice from Heaven." - Our Lady, August 5, 1976

MANIPULATED
"There is, My children, a great conspiracy of evil now throughout your world—the forces, the columns of evil. Man has given them many names-the fifth column. They have been broken up into political parties, including communism. O My children, they are but small arms of the octopus, the gigantic conspiracy of evil that will unite your world and My Son's Church under the rule of despots!
   "There is in Rome, My children, a great struggle for power, a political machine controlled by satan. There shall be a war of the spirits. It shall be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal.
   "I repeat, My children, as I have told you in the past, that the great Council of Vatican II was manipulated by satan. He sat there among you and he worked you like a chessboard.
   "What can you do now to recover? It is simple, My children: turn back and start over with the foundation given to you. You must bring respect back to your priesthood. You must bring respect back to your Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. I have warned you of all the manners of abominations, errors, and delusions that have been set upon you. Listen, and act upon My warnings to you!" - Our Lady, May 15, 1976

DIRECTIONS  TWISTED
"Many, because of the mistakes made issuing forth from the good hearts of John XXIII, Pope Paul VI—many have taken the messages and the directions given at the Vatican Council and twisted them to suit themselves, reading in the Bible words of their own, or finding excuses for their sinning, through the Bible." - Jesus, July 1, 1985

STARTED
"Yes, My child, even with Vatican II, it started out with the best resolves, but then satan took over the scene. And with his agents he reached into the highest professions, the highest league of the hierarchy, until it saddens Me to say that many priests now are on the road to perdition and taking many others with them." - Jesus, July 25, 1985

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Pope Benedict XVI: the Mass reduced to a show
http://www.tldm.org/News7/PopeBenedictXVIMassReducedToAShow.htm

Pope Benedict XVI on the disintegration of the liturgy
http://www.tldm.org/news7/PopeBenedictXVIDisintegrationOfLiturgy.htm

Our Lady of the Roses message to Pope Paul VI
http://www.tldm.org/news6/PaulVI.htm

Latin, the universal language of the Catholic Church
http://www.tldm.org/news5/latin.htm 

“Kneel before your God in the Eucharist”
http://www.tldm.org/News5/kneeling.htm 

Vatican on kneeling for holy Communion
http://www.tldm.org/vatican%20letter.htm 

Should women cover their heads in Church?
http://www.tldm.org/news6/veils.htm 

Pope John Paul II recommends praying the St. Michael Exorcism
http://www.tldm.org/news6/exorcism.htm 

Restore the high altar
http://www.tldm.org/news5/main%5Faltar.htm

"You cannot separate Tradition from your Faith"
http://www.tldm.org/news6/tradition1.htm 

Vatican II, part 1: Infiltration of the Church
http://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-1.htm

Vatican II, part 2: Dark clouds forming before Vatican II
http://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-2.htm

Vatican II, part 3: the satanic revolution gains momentum at the Council
http://www.tldm.org/News6/VaticanII-3.htm

Links…

Pope Benedict XVI harshly condemns Masses that have been transformed “into spectacles that require directors of genius and talented actors"
http://www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=28889&eng=y

Pope Benedict XVI Long-time Supporter of the Traditional Latin Mass, Una Voce America
http://www.unavoce.org/news/2005/benedict_xvi.html

Why Latin? The Latin Mass Society of Ireland
http://indigo.ie/~colmgren/latsoc/template/latin_hist.htm

The Popes on the Latin language, Una Voce
http://www.unavoce.org/popes.htm

Pope John Paul II strongly encourages use of “immortal language”, Una Voce
http://www.unavoce.org/popelatin.htm

The Sacredness of Tradition, by Alice Von Hildebrand

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