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Evidence for the REAL Third Secret:

Writing expert gives two reasons for radical changes in handwriting: "There's one of two things: either it's not that person's known writing or something happened to that person"...

"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978

"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many." - Our Lady of the Roses, April 29, 1992
 

Note: Speckin Forensic Laboratories analyzed the handwriting attributed to Sister Lucy in the Vatican's June 26, 2000 'third secret' document and came to the conclusion that this document did not represent Sister Lucy's handwriting style (Read more...) when compared to known handwriting samples of Sister Lucy (Read more...).

One of the criticisms of our handwriting analysis of the Vatican's June 26, 2000 'third secret' document was that a person's handwriting can change remarkably over a lifetime.

The handwriting expert we consulted, Robert Kullman of Speckin Forensic Laboratories,  stated that he found it remarkable how consistent Sister Lucy’s handwriting remained, in documents he examined representing a 62-year time span. So our handwriting expert affirms that it is amazing how little her handwriting had changed. EXCEPT, of course, the small time frame around 1944, when mysteriously her writing style changes completely, and RESUMES TO HER ORIGINAL WRITING STYLE AFTER 1944.  How interesting. Truly, this must be a remarkable incident in the records of handwriting analysis, for such radical changes to occur in such a small window, and then disappear. It is almost as if she was another person. Such is yet another red flag pointing to the presence of forgery.  

Samples of Sister Lucy's writing compared to the 
alleged 'third secret' writing sample (January 3, 1944 sample below)

December 17, 1927 May 29, 1930  November 17, 1935 alleged third secret January 3, 1944 April 13, 1980 July 13, 1989

In a phone conversation on August 15th, 2000 with our handwriting expert, Robert Kullman, we asked several questions concerning forensics. He replied to us: "Correct me if I'm wrong: what you are saying, 'does someone's writing go along at a certain time frame, say for a ten-year period and they write a certain style. And then say, for a two year time period they change and write a different style and then they pick up two years after that and start writing to the previous style?' NO THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, LOGICALLY.  See, writing may progress somewhat.  It doesn't regress to what you wrote years ago." We then asked him what he would check into if he saw an example of this phenomena occurring in a series of handwriting samples (a consistent handwriting style changing radically for a short period and then resuming to the original handwriting style), what questions he would ask.  He replied, "Well, first off I would check into seeing if the radical change was true known writing. That's the first thing."  He then went on to say, "There's one of two things: either it's not that person's known writing or something happened to that person. Either they broke their writing arm and they had to write with a different arm, or they went through some medical problem that caused them not to write their normal writing at that particular time, because writing is affected by physical and mental items.  So something could happen to you to make your writing change." We then mentioned to him that such a handwriting change would generally be for the worse in this scenario. Robert Kullman replied, "Oh, definitely. Oh yeah, it doesn't get better. You can neveryou can't write better than you can write." 

Please be aware that not only is the writing style of the alleged third secret totally different from Sister Lucy's consistent writing style of a known 62-year period, it is also of a higher writing quality than anything Sister Lucy has ever demonstrated. As another handwriting expert observed:

The hand that penned the presumed forgery appears to have left traces of the effort in the writing. Great care was taken in that article in that the 'weight' of the stroke is almost flat, relative to the plane of the paper, throughout the whole document. Humans don't as a rule write that way. As an expert on legibility (among other things), I can state with some confidence that except for persons trained in the ritual art of copying or calligraphy, humans leave impressions in the act of writing which betrays things like how the body was held at the time of writing. Such things as whether there is something to act as a wrist brace and how far away from the writing surface, all leave impressions in the act of writing.
     The offered document has none of these apparent. In fact the absence of normal human writing 'quavers' (as they are known in the trade) suggests with some certainty that this person was trained to penmanship as an adult. Such people are rare these days, except in the catholic and orthodox (russian/greek) churches. I discount calligraphers even amateurs as their styles are not so clearly Roman. 

All of this makes perfect sense when we continue our study of the alleged third secret, and see that it fails on every single litmus test for authenticity.


[Note: Antonio Socci's book The Fourth Secret of Fatima is renewing interest in the Third Secret. It is worth noting that Pope Benedict XVI, when he was a cardinal, stated that the Third Secret deals with "dangers threatening the faith and the life of the Christian", and that it is contained in Holy Scripture (Read more...) It is also worth noting that Speckin Forensic Laboratories analyzed the handwriting attributed to Sister Lucy in the Vatican's June 26, 2000 'third secret' document and came to the conclusion that this document did not represent Sister Lucy's handwriting style (Read more...) when compared to known handwriting samples of Sister Lucy (Read more...). We also know that the REAL Third Secret mentions the year 1972 (Read more...) and that the Pope referred to in the Third Secret was Pope Paul VI, not Pope John Paul II (Read more...). The significance of Pope Paul VI to the Third Secret is that a group of evil cardinals successfully gained control of his papacy by drugging him and even using an impersonator to Pope Paul in public appearances (Read more...), a fact that was revealed in a formal Church exorcism in Switzerland (Read more...), as well as Theodor Kolberg's b
ook, “Der Betrug des Jahrhunderts” (The Deception of the Century). These evil cardinals--under the seeming appearance of papal approval--imposed unlawful changes on the entire Catholic Church, made statements contrary to immemorial Church tradition, and promoted confusion that has lasted for decades. As a result, the great apostasy has come upon the Church and the world.]  


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"My children, long ago I warned you from Fatima, I warned you through many voice-boxes throughout your world that the time will come when you will embark upon a stormy sea, and it shall be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal, and satan shall set himself in your midst." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1976

"I counseled you at Fatima, and who gave My counsel to the world? Pride and arrogance anew! A secret was to be revealed, and who counseled and prepared the world for the onslaught of satan into My Son's House? No one!" - Our Lady of the Roses, December 31, 1977

"But, My children, as I said in the past, I repeat again, that satan and his agents, the band of 666, has entered into the highest places of the hierarchy; and therefore he has captured some of Our formerly noble hierarchy to do his bidding." - Our Lady of the Roses, June 1, 1978

“As I told you in the past, Lucifer has been released from hell with many other demons in his legion of demons now loosed upon earth. Lucifer is in Rome and plans to destroy the papacy.” – Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1978

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ENTERING THE HIGHEST PLACES OF THE CHURCH
"As I warned you in the past and you did not listen, unless you prayed more, did more penance, sacrifice, communism would go throughout your world, ravishing nations, destroying your Faith, entering into the highest places of My Son's House. Can you deny what is happening now in your world? Remove the blindness from your eyes and look!" - Our Lady of the Roses, March 18, 1977 

SATAN HAS DONE HIS WORK OF FOLLY WELL
"Satan has done his work of folly well. Yes, satan has gone into the highest positions in My House, but he will not triumph. In the final count the victory will be with Us, for he will only proceed as My Father deems."  - Jesus, August 15, 1971  

MANY HAVE GIVEN THEMSELVES TO SATAN
"Do not be misled by the outer clothing of man, for there are many wolves in sheep's clothing, wearing the apparel of rank. Know that many have given themselves to satan.
     "Pray, pray much for those who wear the highest mitres, for they, too, have set themselves onto the road to hell. Your prayers and your acts of sacrifice and those who hear My voice, pray much for the Red Hats that have gone onto the wide road."
- Our Lady, October 2, 1974 

“WHY DID YOU NOT GIVE MY MESSAGE TO THE WORLD AS I GAVE IT TO YOU?”
"I cry to you, My children, that immorality is the gauge, the measuring point for the fall of a nation. Your country, My children, the United States, has fallen to satan. The great eagle has been plucked by sin. Corruption has entered into the highest places of your government and in My Son's Church. I say unto you, and I say this with counsel from high, the Lord high God in Heaven, the Father of all creation, that as you sow so shall you reap!
     "My children, why did you avoid giving My counsel to the world? O you of little faith in the high places of My Son's House, His Church, why did you not give My message to the world as I gave it to you? Pride and arrogance! That is why, My children." -
Our Lady, December 31, 1977 

“DO NOT DESERT MY CHURCH”
"My children, you will all recognize the faces of evil. Satan has entered into the highest ranks of My Church. Pray now for your priests: your bishops, your cardinals, your clergy. Many prayers are needed, for many are on now the road to perdition and taking many others with them.
     "My children, do not cast aside your sacramentals. They are your armor in the days ahead. Do not desert My Church. Do not judge it by the man who has stood there in ignorance or in pride and changed it until it will almost be unrecognizable. I am still with you, My children. Do not leave. You must stay and fight. In this manner, My children, shall the sheep be separated from the goats. It is a form of cleansing." - Jesus, July 15, 1977 

SATAN AND HIS AGENTS HAVE ENTERED IN FULL BATTLE
"We ask you from Heaven not to leave, not to create a schism from your main body in Rome. You must remain within My Son's Church and pray a constant vigilance of prayer. Satan and his agents have entered in full battle upon My Son's Church. Satan has entered into the highest ranks within My Son's Church and the world. He will manipulate powers, provincials, until he brings about a great chastisement, because man will not listen and mend his ways.” - Our Lady, February 10, 1977

1972
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI." - Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978

INDECISION, FEAR OF EXPOSURE
"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many." - Our Lady of the Roses, April 29, 1992

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Articles…

Third Secret of Fatima:

Evidence of a fabrication: Sister Lucy's handwriting notably different in document released by Vatican as the "third secret"
http://www.tldm.org/news/lucys_writing.htm


Evidence of a fabrication: World-famous forensic expert believes Vatican's released "third secret" is not in Sister Lucy's authentic handwriting
http://www.tldm.org/news/speckin-p2.htm

Evidence of a fabrication: The REAL Third Secret of Fatima specifically mentioned the year 1972, as Jacinta revealed to Mother Godinho
http://www.tldm.org/news/StTheresa3rdSecret.htm

 

More evidence of a fabrication: Jacinta's vision of the Holy Father, "the poor little one," was Pope Paul VI
http://www.tldm.org/news/vision_of_jacinta.htm
 

Since 1960, all Popes have been assassinated (narrow exception being John Paul II)
http://www.tldm.org/News10/PopesSince1960.htm

Report: Two things weighed on Pope Benedict's conscience while he was a cardinal, one being the mishandling of the June 26, 2000 Vatican document on the 'third secret'
http://www.tldm.org/News10/PopeBenedictTroubledByVaticanDocumentOn3rdSecret.htm

New Italian book claims Third Fatima Secret still hidden
http://www.tldm.org/News9/NewBookOnThirdSecret.htm

Fr. Alonso, official achivist of Fatima: The REAL Third Secret of Fatima warned of apostasy in the Church
http://www.tldm.org/news7/ThirdSecretFatherAlonso.htm

Third Secret tells of a spiritual chastisement: loss of faith, faltering and punishment of the pastors, diabolical disorientation
http://www.tldm.org/News10/ThirdSecretSpiritualChastisement.htm

 

Cardinal Oddi on the REAL Third Secret of Fatima: "The Blessed Virgin was alerting us against the apostasy in the Church"
http://www.tldm.org/news7/ThirdSecretCardinalOddi.htm


Cardinal Oddi's hypothesis on the REAL Third Secret: "Let me advance a hypothesis: that the Third Secret of Fatima pre-announces something terrible the Church has done"
http://www.tldm.org/News10/CardinalOddiThirdSecretHypothesis.htm

 

Sister Lucy talked about the "diabolical disorientation" in the Church as 1972 approached
http://www.tldm.org/news5/1972.htm

 

Third Secret was to be revealed no later than 1960, "because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so"
http://www.tldm.org/news/in_1960.htm

The approved apparitions of Our Lady of Akita, Japan and the Third Secret
http://www.tldm.org/News10/Akita.htm

The REAL Third Secret of Fatima explains the chaos
http://www.tldm.org/news6/ThirdSecret.htm

Two big blunders of the Fatima experts
http://www.tldm.org/news5/blunders.htm


Fr. Malachi Martin affirms: Satanism has been practiced in the Vatican
http://www.tldm.org/news/martin.htm


Third Secret: "Words" of Our Lady, not a vision
http://www.tldm.org/news3/contradictions.htm


Flaws in the "two-document" Third Secret theory
http://www.tldm.org/news5/flaws.htm


Which Third Secret meets the litmus test?
http://www.tldm.org/litmus_test.htm


Fatimagate
http://www.tldm.org/FatimaGate.htm

The Deception of the Century - the Impostor to Pope Paul VI  
http://www.tldm.org/News3/impostor.htm


Consecration of Russia:

The REAL Sister Lucy has repeatedly stated that Russia must be consecrated by name

http://www.tldm.org/news7/sisterlucyconsecrationofrussia.htm

Besiege the Pope to consecrate Russia to Our Lady
http://www.tldm.org/News6/consecration4.htm


The “conversion of Russia”: what does it really mean?
http://www.tldm.org/News7/ConversionOfRussia.htm

 

The meaning of the "consecration" of Russia
http://www.tldm.org/News7/Alonso.htm


Our Lady of the Roses warns: Russia has not been consecrated properly; Pope John Paul II must consecrate Russia, not the world
http://www.tldm.org/News6/consecration3.htm

Pope concerned about persecution of the Catholic Church in Russia
http://www.tldm.org/news6/persecution.htm

Russia's persecution of the Catholic Church back in high gear
http://www.tldm.org/news5/ruse.htm


Sister Lucy:

Sister Lucy was silenced
http://www.tldm.org/news/sister_lucy_silenced.htm

 

Sister Lucy talked about the "diabolical disorientation" in the Church as 1972 approached
http://www.tldm.org/news5/1972.htm

 

A forgery to replace the REAL Third Secret; an impersonator to replace the REAL Sister Lucy
http://www.tldm.org/News7/ConspiracyToSilenceSisterLucy.htm


The REAL Sister Lucy has repeatedly stated that Russia must be consecrated by name
http://www.tldm.org/news7/SisterLucyConsecrationOfRussia.htm

 

Sister Lucy "will bear witness" that Jacinta appeared at Our Lady of the Roses Shrine
http://www.tldm.org/news3/affirm.htm

 

Vatican-Moscow Treaty:

Rescind the Vatican-Moscow Treaty
http://www.tldm.org/news/treaty.htm

 

Links...

The truth breaks out in Italy: New book by Antonio Socci contests that Third Secret has been revealed
http://www.fatimaperspectives.com/latest/perspective527.asp

 

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